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Archon X4 votes

Why are you in queue then if you're just going to decline? Oshi oshi I want a game, ONE IS AVAILABLE ABORT ABORT

Jubbinaut4 votes

So... because you were declining games - rather a lot of them, I might add - and thereby delaying the queue, and wasting other people's time, you were "punished" by not being allowed to continue that behavior just now?

Yeah, that sounds like a great reason for moral outrage.

RhQCht59fT1 votes

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So... because you were declining games - rather a lot of them, I might add - and thereby delaying the queue, and wasting other people's time, you were "punished" by not being allowed to continue that behavior just now?

Yeah, that sounds like a great reason for moral outrage.

Yeah two is a big number. "you were "punished" by not being allowed to continue that behavior just now?" Umm, what the hell? Am I pointing a gun to someones head? What do you mean 'THIS BEHAVIOR.' lmao.

Jubbinaut1 votes

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Yeah two is a big number.

I wonder how long those players were left waiting. How many minutes, do you think?

EDIT: Adding in response to the edit.

Umm, what the hell? Am I pointing a gun to someones head? What do you mean 'THIS BEHAVIOR.' lmao.

By "that behavior," I refer to the actions you took that led to the "punishment." Namely, the wasting of other people's time.

RhQCht59fT1 votes

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I wonder how long those players were left waiting. How many minutes, do you think?

About 30 seconds.

Jubbinaut2 votes

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About 30 seconds.

Interesting. And how do you come by this number? What information I can gather shows average queue times to be a "few" minutes (usually defined as a number between 3 and 5).

Regardless, let's look at that. You wasted 30 seconds per player in those queues. That's a combined total of nine minutes. So now you know the limit of how much time Riot is willing to allow you to waste for their players: ~9 minutes.

netsuad2 votes

It's a warning first of all, and second how do you decline multiple games? If you know you might miss the button for reasons why queue up? Just wait til you know you wont miss it.

Aids cuz League1 votes

To be honest, it is a warning. Should you have gotten one.. mmmm.. probably not because there are far worse things you could be doing, I will admit it, the one person who just waits for the queue timer is really annoying, but it doesn't warrant being punished for it. They need a system that monitors intentional feeding,

RhQCht59fT1 votes

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To be honest, it is a warning. Should you have gotten one.. mmmm.. probably not because there are far worse things you could be doing, I will admit it, the one person who just waits for the queue timer is really annoying, but it doesn't warrant being punished for it. They need a system that monitors intentional feeding,

Yeah, but you know I'm wrong. Punishing people for declining a game is a lot more important than punishing people for intentionally feeding. proceeds to downvote

SmokedAlmonds3 votes

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Yeah, but you know I'm wrong. Punishing people for declining a game is a lot more important than punishing people for intentionally feeding. proceeds to downvote

Intentional feeder detection update is on PBE now. Also you say that like its equal effort to do each of those things, but im gonna go out on the limb and say counting the times you decline a match requires significantly less work than detecting intentional feeding.

Dorans Shuriken1 votes

you wont find sympathy, if thats what you were after. everyone hates seeing a red icon appear amongst all the blue

RhQCht59fT1 votes

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you wont find sympathy, if thats what you were after. everyone hates seeing a red icon appear amongst all the blue

yeah, but I expected some level of intelligence.

Dorans Shuriken1 votes

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yeah, but I expected some level of intelligence.

from this toxic community? god forbid.

Jubbinaut1 votes

In my case, it's more of a recognition of the need for it to keep queue times from being untenable.

Blade of Justic1 votes

Slap our hand for making players wait another 30 seconds.

Won't address problems with feeding, trolling, duo queue players refusing to surrender and thus making us waste 20 minutes.

Oh yeah, we got our ducks in a row right here...

http://mlzae1f6hd22a8hczk0jqy86.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/duckrow-flickrcc-1024x454.jpg

Jubbinaut1 votes

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Won't address problems with feeding, trolling, duo queue players refusing to surrender and thus making us waste 20 minutes.

Just gonna leave this here:

http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html#feedback

Blade of Justic1 votes

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Just gonna leave this here:

http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html#feedback

Still feel like it took them 4 years too long to run this out and even this won't entirely fix the issues.

Jubbinaut1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Blade of Justic,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=GonRZR6K,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2015-09-11T01:35:27.211+0000)

Still feel like it took them 4 years too long to run this out and even this won't entirely fix the issues.

Nothing will entirely fix the issues. There will always be something. It's an inevitability.

And previously, the Tribunal handled feeders pretty effectively. Not particularly quickly, mind, but that was an overarching problem with that version of the system, anyway.

Archon X1 votes

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Just gonna leave this here:

http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html#feedback

Was that guy trolling in Latin? Lmao

Jubbinaut2 votes

HA! No... took me a minute to figure out what you were referring to. That was just a sample. The chat-log was just Lorem ipsum, which is often used as filler text in publishing and graphic design.

redniwediS1 votes

Really? You have to decline 5-10 times in a row to get a warning like that, and if I remember correctly the punishment is the same as dodging in a normals.

You're delaying games that would have started up, so Riot is just saying "stop that". I don't see how it's unreasonable.

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