Why aren't there a lot of marksmen in the game?

Emperor Time··7 votes·970 views

They should release more marksmen! Because it seems to me that the marksmen role has the smallest champion pool out of all the other roles. There are like a trillion top/mid laners and a decent amount of junglers that can be played now and support has a pretty big pool of champions that can be played, but with marksmen there are maybe like 6 good marksmen that can be played usually in every meta.

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Earl Eulrich6 votes

Ashe Caitlyn Corki Draven Ezreal Graves Jinx Kalista Lucian MissFortune Quinn Sivir Tristana Twitch Varus Vayne ...16 seems like actually kinda enough

Neo Cyrus4 votes

There's 18 if you count Urgot (you forgot Kog). But that's still by far the least of any role.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

mh yea kog definitly, also there had been ad kennen and lulu even on the pro lvl...so we´re at 20

thePandev2 votes

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There's 18 if you count Urgot (you forgot Kog). But that's still by far the least of any role.

While that may be true, every single marksman is viable. There may be some stronger than weaker but I've seen all of them played well at least 4 or 5 times this season.

Brahmsauce1 votes

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While that may be true, every single marksman is viable. There may be some stronger than weaker but I've seen all of them played well at least 4 or 5 times this season.

No one mains Quinn come on now.

WolfBV1 votes

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No one mains Quinn come on now.

U wot.

thePandev1 votes

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No one mains Quinn come on now.

The 4 or 5 times I've seen a Quinn do well in ADC came from me, except that number's a lot higher. I main her as my ADC and think she is better there than mid or top.

I will say it takes a while to get used to her. AA animation, passive AI, range, when to use ult, are all hugely important aspects that differ from a lot of other ADCs.

1000angrybees1 votes

and technically, you can always use ranged characters as off-marksmen.

Phife3 votes

no, no you cannot. nope. .... uh no? no.

Emperor Time1 votes

This guy gets it.

IcyPepper1 votes

Only some can do that, not all.

Emperor Time1 votes

Yea uhm there are a at least 30+ champions in all the other roles to choose from so I don't think 18 adc's is enough.

Heckin Support2 votes

It's not even about the pool, its about the viablility. Not every champion in every role is as viable as someone else. There is a reason you don't see Miss Fortune and Quinn in every game but you see Vayne and Jinx in every game. I feel its worse for supports though. Every game is Thresh, Blitzcrank, and Morgana. What happened to Soraka? Zilean? Where is this forever long deserved Taric rework?

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

ADC and support are the two most specialized positions, which leads to very few champions being viable.

TurquoiseYoshi2 votes

The thing is, ADC (and also support) are extremely specialized roles. Top lane can fit basically anyone, jungle has no specific guidelines to characters used other than them being able to farm in the jungle (which isn't tough), and mid's basically only requirement is to be AP, and even that isn't necessary (AP Rumble top, Corki ADC, AD Varus/Jayce mid is balanced in damage type). ADC requires high base AD, physical spells, and just a ton of AA damage, while not being too tanky (Urgot being an exception).

RyukLikesApples1 votes

I think it might be because it's harder to create an "identity" for characters whose sole purpose most of the time is to deal consistent damage to what's in front of them, there's only so many variations of feasibly healthy marksmen-like abilities you can tack on. Notice how in the Champion Concepts forum there aren't really many marksmen as opposed to other roles, that's because there is more flexibility in, say, a jungler or mid laner.

Silents4291 votes

Because it's hard to balance and make a unique ADC.

Instead of complaining, what exactly haven't they done at this point? Kalista was a trainwreck to some, and they still couldn't make her unique since she is a utility ADC like Ashe and Varus.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

You forgot Sivir as a utility ADC.

Larnaean Hydra1 votes

I cant believe u noone mentioned Teemo :( Teemo

Lugg1 votes

The reason is that every other role can be played by any class. Tanks, fighters, assassins, mages, marksmen, and supports can all play top, mid, jungle, and support. That is why it seems like the ADC role doesn't have enough champions.

Tea Mochi1 votes

Feminists be like: "WHAT ABOUT MARKS-WOMEN?"

WhiskerWow1 votes

The only problem with making more marksmen is figuring out a way to make them unique. All of them use their auto attacks to do sustained damage, with some giving burst. They have to give each one to make them more special. Ashe has CC, Caitlyn has a safe laning phase, Draven has crazy flat damage, Kalista has super mobility, and so on.

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