Champions that need nerfs but Riot overlooks/ignores.

XinCrin·2/6/2017, 9:23:51 PM·4 votes·1,373 views

Zac -55% win rate. Really hard to kill when he gets a few items. Also, his E is on a really short CD and I remember they nerfed Gragas E and Rek'sai E because they were "too short CD". Hecarim -51.9% win rate. Decently fast clear with AOE Q, and really strong gank with a LOT of damage in the early game. Janna- 54.8% win rate. Really easy to play and makes it incredibly difficult to kill champions with her cock block kit. Vi -54% win rate. While she has been non-meta for a long time, now that she is, she is really oppressive. She does high damage, quite tanky, and a click and point ultimate that locks down a target. Corki -Almost a 54% win rate. item 3078 +item 3094 gives him an insane amount of burst and his laning phase is amazing on top of his really solid late game.

Zac, Heca, Janna and have been strong for patches now but there is no indication you are nerfing them .Vi and Corki are more recent but they are incredibly strong (evident from win rate). I know this post will get down voted, but before you down vote, how about you fucking think about what I say and if I'm wrong to believe these champions need nerfs, tell me why. I know that the boards have this reputation to downvote nerf threads by a bunch of silver and bronze players.

33 Comments

LankPants2/7/2017, 1:24:45 AM3 votes

Where on earth are you getting your numbers from? Almost every site I can find lists Zac at 50% or lower, with the more reputable ones generally listing him lower.

Just for reference Lolking: 50.7% champ.gg: 50.22% leagueofgraphs: 50% lolayltics: 49.5% na.op.gg: 48.96%

Just a word of advice, if you're going to make one of these, link your sources because right now as far as I know your source is your arse.

winteriscoming972/6/2017, 9:27:50 PM3 votes

Janna is the most nerfed champ in League history*

Still upvoting though.

Rewt2/6/2017, 10:23:15 PM2 votes

Zac Yea... kind of annoying, but really his nerfs need to be focused around his damage cause i see full tank zac's insta popping adcs. his tankyness is fine Hecarim CoTC nerfs hit him pretty hard. he is still strong but he isnt as oppressive as he once was. if anything should be done to Hec it should be to nerf E base damage and reduce the cooldown. right now his kit is basically sprint into lane 1/2 hp someone with his e,q and then wait 22 seconds for his E again. really the damage needs a nerf and the cooldown needs a buff. Janna Janna is a bitch but eh. I feel that she is a pretty solid kit and is fine where she is. Vi Not a lot to say about her. she is pretty fucking ridiculous at the moment Corki Lets put it this way item 3078 is busted. its literally 1/2 the reason hecarim is strong right now. most Trinity champs are fucking insane (Including Vi)

Also winrates mean practically nothing. Lee Sin had like a 49% winrate before the nerfs. but was still fucking ridiculous. Winrates mean actually nothing.

Terozu2/6/2017, 9:52:53 PM2 votes

Zac is really easy to kill for me, then again I've always built anti tank, Hecarim, I can't really say anything for, for Janna, she's THE weakest champ in the game she needs to be viable and deserves the heal, besides you can just save your dashes until after her ult and you're good, Vi is only good if she gets fed, and falls off late game if she doesn't decide between tank or fighter, she becomes to weak to kill you, and not strong enough to live, or one or the other, so keep her down and you're good, and Corki? I'm just gonna forget that you're asking for a Corki nerf, that's just fucking sad man... Also you act like their win rates mean they're broken or something, those win rates are just fine, tbh anything below 60%, and above 40%, is balanced in win rates, when you consider the awe inspiring number of variables this game has to deal with. In addition, the whole "know that the boards have this reputation to downvote nerf threads by a bunch of silver and bronze players." , really? You're a jerk and while at first, since you made some valid points I was just gonna leave the counter alone, but since you decided to be an arrogant prick about it (and fyi, if even bronze/silver players don't have trouble against these champs then you have no right to complain about them regardles of your rank, w/e it is), you get the downvote. TL;DR Downvoted.

Ðreamdate2/6/2017, 10:23:55 PM1 votes

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Zac -55% win rate. Really hard to kill when he gets a few items. Also, his E is on a really short CD and I remember they nerfed Gragas E and Rek'sai E because they were "too short CD". Hecarim -51.9% win rate. Decently fast clear with AOE Q, and really strong gank with a LOT of damage in the early game. Janna- 54.8% win rate. Really easy to play and makes it incredibly difficult to kill champions with her cock block kit. Vi -54% win rate. While she has been non-meta for a long time, now that she is, she is really oppressive. She does high damage, quite tanky, and a click and point ultimate that locks down a target. Corki -Almost a 54% win rate. item 3078 +item 3094 gives him an insane amount of burst and his laning phase is amazing on top of his really solid late game.

Zac, Heca, Janna and have been strong for patches now but there is no indication you are nerfing them .Vi and Corki are more recent but they are incredibly strong (evident from win rate). I know this post will get down voted, but before you down vote, how about you fucking think about what I say and if I'm wrong to believe these champions need nerfs, tell me why. I know that the boards have this reputation to downvote nerf threads by a bunch of silver and bronze players.

I play Vi alot and i can say she does a lot of dmg if she gets rolling but if you dont then GG.. Once you fall behind you are dead weight to the team. Well as you all know.. junglers get blamed for every loss but never the wins

Spicy Rice2/6/2017, 9:39:02 PM1 votes

I'd argue that Ahri could use a nerf. ATM, she feels like the mages equivalent of lee sin

Sona Ping2/7/2017, 1:33:19 AM1 votes

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Zac -55% win rate. Really hard to kill when he gets a few items. Also, his E is on a really short CD and I remember they nerfed Gragas E and Rek'sai E because they were "too short CD". Hecarim -51.9% win rate. Decently fast clear with AOE Q, and really strong gank with a LOT of damage in the early game. Janna- 54.8% win rate. Really easy to play and makes it incredibly difficult to kill champions with her cock block kit. Vi -54% win rate. While she has been non-meta for a long time, now that she is, she is really oppressive. She does high damage, quite tanky, and a click and point ultimate that locks down a target. Corki -Almost a 54% win rate. item 3078 +item 3094 gives him an insane amount of burst and his laning phase is amazing on top of his really solid late game.

Zac, Heca, Janna and have been strong for patches now but there is no indication you are nerfing them .Vi and Corki are more recent but they are incredibly strong (evident from win rate). I know this post will get down voted, but before you down vote, how about you fucking think about what I say and if I'm wrong to believe these champions need nerfs, tell me why. I know that the boards have this reputation to downvote nerf threads by a bunch of silver and bronze players.

Like the last thread:

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