Whenever you want to give up:

Onelastfrost·Jan 31, 2015·30 votes·3,413 views

We were called try-hards when the enemy destroyed one of our base turret. Told to give up when they had our inhibs, and even still they were impatient as they were fought off from destroying our nexus. -- they has the lead the entire 48 minute game. And we won.

We never voted to surrender. not when our top lane dc'd 2 minutes in (ended coming back ~10 minutes later) or we lost all lanes, barely any dragon kills. -- this isn't as uncommon as you'd think. this is determination.

45 Comments

SaixosJan 31, 201519 votes

My opinion on this is simple: Whether to surrender or not doesn't depend on whether or not you're losing and behind at the moment, but it depends on your teammates attitudes. If you're incredibly behind but your teammates are all extremely chill and everyone's joking around and having fun, there is absolutely no reason to surrender.

If your team is filled with flamers, or 2 people are having a massive argument and it's no longer fun for those involved that's when you surrender. As long as you're having fun, don't surrender. But even if you spend 50+ minutes on a game massively behind and win in the end, if your team was being toxic for 80% of the game you're not going to find it enjoyable, and thus a surrender would have been better.

SammystormJan 31, 20153 votes

this. If the game is toxic I don't want to play it. if the game is fun I don't mind getting stomped or losing or whatever.

meatjunjunJan 31, 20153 votes

Pretty much this. Everyone needs motivation to finish to the game. Some are just try-hards with the "never surrender" attitude, others don't feel like wasting another 40 minutes of their time when you have a 90% chance to lose.

If the match is still fun, it'll make everyone want to still playing till the end.

PoisonedPeaceJan 31, 201514 votes

4 dragons "Barely any dragon kills"

SecretAgentHulkJan 31, 20152 votes

To be fair, it was two before they turned it around, one of which ended with them getting murdered by the enemy team, and the enemy team themselves had two, one of which came with murdering this person's team. The other team was better at dragon.

SEKAIJan 31, 20156 votes

The chances of 1 out of a few thousands to millions really isn't worth pouring that much heart into.

While it's cool to try, and there is nothing wrong in going hardcore to try do the near impossible but that's not a thing for everybody, might as well surrender when the gap is THAT big and start anew.

Strategic retreat and learning when to give up is no sin imo.

Either way, GJ OP.

PoisonedPeaceJan 31, 20152 votes

I never surrender, purely because I've put at least 20 min into a video game, and I have fun playing win or lose.

I understand ranked is "competitive" and people want to climb as quickly as possible, but ranked or norms, still a video game.

SammystormJan 31, 20151 votes

What if people are toxic? Do you still have fun then?

PoisonedPeaceFeb 9, 20151 votes

Absolutely. Mute button is your friend. I wouldn't play this video game if I wasn't enjoying it.

JunkοJan 31, 20156 votes

I don't surrender because i think the game is unwinnable. I surrender because i simply don't want to play anymore, either we have a feeder which makes the game a pain to play even if you are fed, my teammates thrash talk and flame, or because it simply isn't fun to recover and turtle out till all the advantages enemy team has run out

Tin TarantinoJan 31, 20154 votes

Rising up, back on the street Did my time, took my chances

TheKingDodoJan 31, 20152 votes

Went the distance, now I'm back on my feet Just a man and his will to survive

CheckMyDoublesJan 31, 20151 votes

So many times it happens too fast You change your passion for glory

QuanticFyreFeb 1, 20152 votes

Don't lose your grip on the dreams of the past You must fight just to keep them alive

missinggraveFeb 1, 20151 votes

ITS THE EYE OF THE TIGER ITS THE THRILL OF THE FIGHT

Derpy MikeFeb 1, 20154 votes

"DW GUAIZE! I KONW IT'S 0-453, AND THEY'RE UP 17 DRAGONS, AND THEY'VE GOT THE PAST 4 BARONS AND THEY CURRENTLY HAVE 4 MORE CHAMPIONS THAN US. IT'S OKAY GUYS ILL PRESS NO ON THE SURRENDER AND SO WILL MY DUO Q BUDDY. YOU KNOW WHY? CAUSE WE HAVE THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP!"

Op, 2015~

I'm all for that determination shit but friendly reminder to be realistic about what you can or can't win.

StupidSavantFeb 1, 20153 votes

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"DW GUAIZE! I KONW IT'S 0-453, AND THEY'RE UP 17 DRAGONS, AND THEY'VE GOT THE PAST 4 BARONS AND THEY CURRENTLY HAVE 4 MORE CHAMPIONS THAN US. IT'S OKAY GUYS ILL PRESS NO ON THE SURRENDER AND SO WILL MY DUO Q BUDDY. YOU KNOW WHY? CAUSE WE HAVE THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP!"

Op, 2015~

I'm all for that determination shit but friendly reminder to be realistic about what you can or can't win.

Your duo que buddie is a dick, i mean leaving you to play on his own.

LostFr0stFeb 1, 20151 votes

His duo partner didn't leave +)

Mordekaiser Huehuehue

StupidSavantFeb 1, 20151 votes

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His duo partner didn't leave +)

Huehuehue

he said 5 left, so either he left or his duo did... its impossible for two people to vote no if there is only one

LostFr0stFeb 1, 20151 votes

I meant it was 2 v 6 cause mord QQ

MidEvilKnight3kFeb 1, 20151 votes

In that situation the game will be over in less than 1 minute, so what does the surrender matter?

AetherKingdomJan 31, 20152 votes

That's not determination. That's the enemy team dicking around for so long that you win.

Jeddy017Jan 31, 20152 votes

In other words,they threw the game?

AetherKingdomJan 31, 20152 votes

yep

SecretAgentHulkJan 31, 20151 votes

Purple may have thrown, but It was still a hell of a comeback for blue.

Lunar LightningJan 31, 20152 votes

while this is true u can win 2 games in the amount of time it took to win one

Duchess of DeerJan 31, 20152 votes

just look at rammus i think this is a better comeback

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1702943540/203169151?tab=overview

ZmuecatJan 31, 20152 votes

Yes, as the game goes on, regardless of how much money and how ahead the winning team is, the losing can always catch up in items.

Yes, as the game goes on, the winning team gives the losing team a chance at turning the game around, the odds increasing as time goes on and the losing team gets closer to full build.

With both of these in mind, it makes sense that in a ranked game, you would never give up and play it out until the enemy destroys your nexus. However, in a normal, if I'm not having fun I'd like to move on to the next game or just stop playing, so I'd like the current game to end.

100uJan 31, 20152 votes

I'd say this kind of game happens once every 30-35 would-be losses. At best.

I say save yourself the frustration and move on to a winnable scenario.

JacctheInsomniacFeb 1, 20152 votes

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MidEvilKnight3kFeb 1, 20151 votes

It's fun for me. Don't force me to forfeit a game that I am having fun in and there is still a chance to win.

Rinky DinkyFeb 1, 20151 votes

If everyone on my team is fighting and flaming each other, I am probably not going to want to continue that game.

In normal circumstances (Rare), however, I agree,

MidEvilKnight3kFeb 4, 20151 votes

Indeed, people can make the game much less enjoyable by raging. Plus, once the raging starts your chances of winning have gone down by at least a factor of 10.

ValyrianBladeJan 31, 20151 votes

At least you started catching up in gold :P

Nice comeback though. Mine (2 days ago) took forever (1:14) and was mostly due to a ridiculously fed opposing top laner and our mid laner dc'ing until level 6 (and our top laner dc'ing for a few minutes twice after the 55min mark).

EDIT: I keep adding an attachment picture of the gold summary but it's not showing up...

BakedLotionJan 31, 20151 votes

If it was a normal, i would've just ffed. so much work for nothing lol

chriseritJan 31, 20151 votes

i was curious so i googled for this match

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1714748593/200125292?tab=overview

take your conclusions by yourself

FelvyneJan 31, 20151 votes

The other day happened something similar to me. First emplacement game, in champion select nobody wanted to adc. Well, I was in a good mood, so I take it.

Bad idea. Really bad idea. Corki got three kills or four in lane and starts roaming, killing the jungler... 11/0 at minute 15, oneshooting everybody he saw. They where 10k of gold at the mark of 20-25 mins. We stalled, played together, catching the other team out of position, getting ahead of their missplays. We ended winning at the game at the 50minutes. Was hard as hell, but oh god, what a pleasure of game that I really enjoyed. Sweet victory, these comebacks are the best.

meatjunjunJan 31, 20151 votes

This is pretty uncommon, dude. You'd probably get this type of come-back maybe 1 of 10 tries. 10% chance is not COMMON. Stop holding the people that want to quit hostage.

StexeJan 31, 20151 votes

It was a normal game though so...?

Maybe the other team wasn't trying. I know I lost a match we could have easily won but I wanted to get max items and practice all stages of the Champion. It was a normal game so whatever. It is there for a learning experience more than anything else.

theragingnerdJan 31, 20151 votes

ok time to tell my best come backstory so i was playing kat i was 3 min late to top against jax i was 4 and 6 when i came down to mid to kill the over extended kass and then all of a sudden a kha appeared and said fuck it i'm going in may i mention how bad my team fed and i killed them and backed got a pretty void staff and started to murder lanes to the point where we peaked slightly to the lead and may i mention we had a ap heal tp jg amumu on our team who jumped in and locked them all down for me to quadra then out of nowhere that jax tped and i was sure i would die but hero amumu stunned and i got the penta and we pushed and won :D best game

LiAMfACEFeb 1, 20151 votes

Seriously THIS.

http://matchhistory.oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/OC1/76876131/200158335?tab=overview

I mean, of course there are times where a surrender is necessary, but most of the time people surrender way too fast.

SleepyLionCubFeb 1, 20151 votes

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Seriously THIS.

http://matchhistory.oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/OC1/76876131/200158335?tab=overview

I mean, of course there are times where a surrender is necessary, but most of the time people surrender way too fast.

:)

This REALLY wouldnt have been the case of "surrendering too fast". They were down so much gold, that it was entirely up to the enemy team wither or not they would win or lose.

LiAMfACEFeb 4, 20151 votes

You had to have been in that game. ;)