BULLYING IN LEAGUE OF LEGENDS

kzyang·Jan 5, 2015·17 votes·3,125 views

So this morning I was playing a game. Simple. However, approaching the late game I was doing fairly poorly. But, to my surprise, our Shaco Jungle started verbally harassing me. Phrases such as 'Go kill yourself' and 'Jump off a cliff' were directed at me.

I just simply feel like this needs to stop. Like right now. There are people actually out there that may have little self-esteem and unfortunately may do such a horrible thing. So please, RIOT do something about this as it is NOT a joke. This is basically telling someone to die for losing a lol match.

AND IF YOU ARE HERE TO TELL US TO GROW SOME BALLS, PLEASE GO AWAY.

55 Comments

JakubrusJan 5, 201511 votes

First, mute those people immediately.

Second, report them after the game for verbal abuse / harassment. Be sure to fill in the report with a brief explanation for Riot to read, such as "Around 25 minutes he said (verbal abuse quote) in chat to me".

Riot has given us the tools to help ourselves. So many people just flame back in chat, forums, etc, instead of simply following the above two steps. The first one protects you. The second one alerts Riot, and justice will eventually come to those people if they continue their behavior.

Also, if you see someone else getting verbally abused, tell the culprit "You are being verbally abusive. It's not helping. Please stop." then mute them (because they'll probably turn their abuse on you as well) and remember to report them after the game. Zero Tolerance starts in the community. The rest of us need to be doing our part to crack down on these people.

Yulen XoshxiusJan 5, 20153 votes

I feel this needs to be spread more than people reminding people to say nothing if they can't say something nice.

Mikal PikalJan 5, 20152 votes

Yes, this is perfect advice for how to deal with it. People vastly under-use the mute button. If you are sitting there typing to the raging/abusive person instead of playing you are now toxic as well.

imonly4noobcakesJan 6, 20151 votes

I think most people DO NOT know how to mute. It's not exactly a user friendly system.

Cyan292Jan 5, 20156 votes

There's a simple solution here. Mute anyone and everyone that is being negative or toxic in any way. Problem solved.

pcfmYiJC8RJan 5, 20155 votes

Omg another i'm depressed i'm being bully thread? Don't play league if you are sensitive.

GallowgrimJan 5, 20153 votes

No, have the trolls grow a brain and develop maturity or get out of League.

pcfmYiJC8RJan 5, 20154 votes

Or maybe don't be so bad? Majority of people are toxic because some idiot is off trying to solo baron at level 13, not warding, not grouping , building wrong and feeding their lane instead of playing passive. That is 10x more toxic then someone saying you suck.

They need a requirement to even play ranked other than just being level 30 and owning like 12 champs. If you don't meet the requirements you should not be allowed to play ranked. That is logic.. end of story.

ValerdiJan 5, 20151 votes

not sure being bad justifies bullying. And building wrong? no such thing unlike the meta LOL is trying to force on us (update for jungle having to have smite for items). anyone can build whatever they want unless they go ap on a ad like vayne but i doubt it happens as much. no one mentioned ranked and who cares if you don't have a team with TS you wont get very far.

Also you could report but its a waste of time, since LOL supports bullying. Was in a game where i called ad? But this pr*** instant locks ez? didn't bother calling and claiming he said it first or whatever. throughout the game kept telling me to get supp items and what not, telling me off multiple times before i finally told him off (provoked) but im the one who gets banned. So banned 3 times all of which provoked .-.

pcfmYiJC8RJan 5, 20152 votes

It 100% justifies it. If you are going you are going to go out of your way on purpose to ruin 4 other players fun for 30+ minutes then yes you are going to hear about it. If you did it in real life you would get punched in the face.

No such thing as building wrong? Build AD hiemer and let me know how that goes, or ap Ashe. If you want to break the meta and be an idiot play normals... Don't play a competitive ranked match and not take it serious.

As long as someone trolls they will hear about it.. end of story. You can report trolls all you want considering you must be one but i will put them in their place rather I get reported or not.

ValerdiJul 31, 20171 votes

"anyone can build whatever they want unless they go ap on a ad like vayne"

You totally missed the point. I already said dont go ap on vayne who is adc. other than that long as you build ad like bloodthirster or whatever, then you shouldn't harass.

Yulen XoshxiusJan 5, 20153 votes

Side note: I agree on the ranked portion on some sort of requirement needing to be filled other than level 30. What do you suggest?

pcfmYiJC8RJan 5, 20153 votes

I suggest some sort of map mode that you have to play where you required to ward, focus objectives etc. A Training map so people know what they are doing and know what to do before they jump in to a competitive mode and treat it as a bot game.

People joining ranked should be required to have a full run page at the very least, not join with half runes being tier 1 and the other runes blank. They should know where to place wards, They should know how to build champs not building AD heimer for shits and giggles in a competitive ranked mode.

You would also be required to play so much of them and not afk during them before you can play ranked.

pcfmYiJC8RJan 5, 20152 votes

or at the very least base it on your performance, that way if you have a ton of games where you are negative then that would weed out the bad players and trolls. Supports would have their own requirement to meet.

Yulen XoshxiusJan 5, 20151 votes

Good ideas! Although I think simply KNOWING how to build things relatively right won't stop them from fooling around once they are in. I like the rune page idea as it takes a bit of grinding to get a full rune page of tier 3 runes, in that time they HOPEFULLY master pvp better. There should also be a video/youtube series labled something like "Things to master before you play Ranked".

I disagree with such severity in normal matches(except maybe team builder), but perhaps if we can at LEAST keep Ranked focused and full of quality effort it will satisfy people to go to Ranked for a REAL game, and not worry too much about normals.

Ankoku no HimeJan 5, 20151 votes

At least 200 normal wins?

Mecha MaIphiteJan 5, 20153 votes

"Doing badly at a game that will ultimately have next to no impact on your future success is worse than telling someone to kill himself."

Do you realize how dumb you sound right now.

GallowgrimJan 5, 20151 votes

That kind sadly doesn't. But eventually they'll grow up and develop an interest in the opposite/same sex. Or be booted out of the basement and made to get a job. Either way, they won't be polluting the game as much.

PL55Jan 5, 20152 votes

You have to remember you are still playing a game, there is absolutely no reason to show disrespect to a person you don't know.

pcfmYiJC8RJan 6, 20151 votes

Tell that to the trolls who go out of their way to waste 45 mins of a game because they are doing bad in a game and feel because they suck they are just going to go feed and screw the other 4 people on their team over.

Start with the trolls first..

Mikal PikalJan 5, 20152 votes

Since obviously morality isn't your thing, let's be pragmatic.

First, I assume you rage or else you wouldn't respond this way. Second, I assume from this and your other responses that you rage in response to what you perceive to be a bad play by a team mate. Third, I assume that you want to win the game.

I want you to now consider what happens when you rage at someone and then apply that to assumption 3. When you rage, the BEST case scenario is that the person mutes you and continues to play their game. In this situation, raging did absolutely nothing of value, except now hopefully you weren't planning on typing anything important since at least 1 person can't see it.

The most common result is that the person you raged at is going to respond negatively back at you, either by defending/explaining their action, raging back at you, or criticizing everything you do. People do not play better under these circumstances and in fact normally play worse. Moreover, there is more typing at each other which causes mistakes where instead of playing you are standing there typing.

Raging never helps you have a better chance of winning and usually makes you have a worse chance of winning. Therefore, no one should ever rage if they care about winning. So why do it? It doesn't matter who is sensitive or not, raging gives your team a worse chance of winning which is why I don't like my team mates doing it. We have 5 enemies to worry about, why are we fighting each other?

GettemCloneJan 5, 20154 votes

ppl like this get banned from game chat

it happened to me this week

i talked shit to someone and got banned from game chat for 19 games :[

OneSlickPhonyJan 5, 20154 votes

There's a lot of douchey Shaco players out there. The only reason I'm not one too is because I'll probably get banned if I hurt someone's feelings.

Yulen XoshxiusJan 5, 20152 votes

We appreciate you for not doing the wrong thing. But what IS with Shaco? Mostly if I see a REALLY viscious person they appear to be either Shaco or Morgana.

OneSlickPhonyJan 5, 20153 votes

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We appreciate you for not doing the wrong thing. But what IS with Shaco? Mostly if I see a REALLY viscious person they appear to be either Shaco or Morgana.

The thing with Shaco is that he's extremely snowball-reliant, or a "hit or miss" champion. Once he goes in with his Q, he has no escape and is screwed if everyone turns on him. What this most does it cause a lot of rage when the player dies instantly and isn't able to snowball.

Yulen XoshxiusJan 5, 20152 votes

I see, so it IS a stress factor on playing Shaco.

PæanJan 5, 20153 votes

Shaco is my favorite champ, and sometimes when you play a champ long enough you start to emulate or roleplay as them...
I am never more nervous or stressed than when I play Shaco because I know how to play him very well and am thinking about every single factor. The timers of all their camps as well as mine, when that top laner used his summoners. Some of this is standard jungler stuff, but I think you get the point.

I also think certain people gravitate to certain champs or class of champs. Like that random Zed player probably plays other Assassins without mana like Akali, Katarina, or Yasuo.

Some of this might be random rambling, but that's what I felt like typing.

ps. Shaco's lore depicts him as a murderous joker and the most lethal form of a "troll" ever, maybe someone is getting too "into character" xD

Edit: forgot the most important part! When I play Shaco, I am a HUGE jerk/dbag to the enemy jungler and entire enemy team, not in chat or anything, but I try to play in such an irritating way as to get them to either give up or rage at me. Shaco is ALL about getting into their head, his mind games are almost central to his playstyle.
Also, if you decide to recall with less than 200 hp in the baron pit i may or may not throw a shiv at baron o.o

imonly4noobcakesJan 6, 20151 votes

Not true I've had some extremely toxic Jinxes and Ezreals.

Philbo BagginsJan 5, 20154 votes

To all the people who are saying: toughen up, go play a different game, or otherwise.

YOU ARE BULLYING THE OP OF A THREAD ABOUT BULLYING. Not cool.

Sincerely,

Someone who points out the cruel irony of the situation.

SexyTaylorSwiftJan 5, 20154 votes

OMG shut up already. Stop spamming these fucking threads already. Riot is already against this, so asking them to do something is asking them to allow it. Grow the fuck up and use your mute button.

whocares123Jan 5, 20153 votes

I agree, it's a piss off. But sadly, if you're playing a multiplayer game, especially a pvp game. This kind of thing is gonna come with it. Nothing riot or anybody else can do about it. I wish the punishment for this kind of behavior was more..apparent.

nerak23Jan 5, 20153 votes

Yep and again another thread about it. Their IS something they can do...It's called Zero tolerance..

GallowgrimJan 5, 20152 votes

Ban the bully-brats.

JunkοJan 5, 20153 votes

Can people realize bullying isn't a problem only in LoL

Yulen XoshxiusJan 5, 20153 votes

Why is it people rather attack the idea than to consider its not that terrible of an idea for people to just be discouraged from making jerks of themselves?

StarlighteJan 5, 20153 votes

You have opted into this game. This game has given you tools to ignore and report players you deem toxic. This game also doesn't have a gun to your head threatening to pull the trigger unless you continue playing. And all money that you have put into the game is more than likely cosmetic only, so your financial attachment to the game should be a non-factor.

Why are you making a thread about this, with all those things being said? People with thin skin should be prepared to deal with assholes on the internet, it is just part of being here.

Mikal PikalJan 5, 20152 votes

Maybe some people who do make those comments don't realize how serious it is or how profoundly it could affect another person/

StarlighteJan 5, 20151 votes

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Maybe some people who do make those comments don't realize how serious it is or how profoundly it could affect another person/

Or, they *do *realize, and just don't care. It is not your job nor is it Riot's to show everyone the error of their ways. Because at that point you are playing the role of the thought-police.

Ankoku no HimeJan 5, 20153 votes

AND IF YOU ARE HERE TO TELL US TO GROW SOME BALLS, YOU CAN JUST *PISS *OFF.

Verbal Abuse much?

XtremeyJan 5, 20153 votes

dat mute button really comes in handy.

balbraakselJan 5, 20152 votes

I usually send a support ticket to Riot if I meet someone who acts like that. Such people need to be banned ASAP.

Doesn't happen often though. I've only done that twice.

DaaaaangJan 5, 20151 votes

I've noticed the most toxic people tend to be those who play aggressive champs ( Akali Fizz Fiora LeeSin RekSai Yasuo Zed ) and end up doing poorly. I think it just boils down to either a) the match not going the way the person expected, or b) the person is just flat out toxic.

In either case, just mute them. Even if you make a simple mistake that didn't really change the course of the game. If a person's first response to something is a sarcastic remark, or negativity, chances are they aren't going to change. I just tell them they're being muted, then I forget they exist.

Ankoku no HimeJan 5, 20151 votes

its stressful to play those champs, since you need kills to be relevant at all...

DaaaaangJan 6, 20151 votes

Right - but it's also high risk high reward. You're taking a chance playing a champ with more room for error, but to make up for it they snowball ridiculously. I've made more assassins rage on me or afk than any other role. Not sure if that's just by chance, but it's been pretty consistent for me at least. I can recall of two instances specifically (recently) I made an Akali and Yasuo afk by 10 minutes because they got dominated.

KeitronJan 5, 20151 votes

Ahem Buck Up or mute

VahlenJan 6, 20151 votes

Back in my day, kids actually fought back against the bully. Then you wanna know what happened? GASP The bully buggered off. Welcome to the"pussification" of America folks.

BakedLotionJan 6, 20151 votes

if they have low self esteem that's sorta their fault for letting themselves feel that way. Just don't give a shit about anything in life and you're set.

Evil JesterJan 6, 20151 votes

Kayle still waiting for the tribunal......

tau43Jan 6, 20151 votes

Learn to laugh at them. Just take a step back and look at what they are saying. 9 times out of 10 I end up laughing because they're doing just as bad, or are being useless to the team.

For example, I was getting harassed by a Malzahar of all things for going 1/5/10, I took look at his kda, and the guy was some how going 0/0/0. As a Malzahar, it takes some kind of backwards miracle to do that bad. So I just ended up laughing in his delusional face.