East Coast Ping is not much better than all the way from Hong Kong?

hjewel··12 votes·1,574 views

I am from Hong Kong and my ping to NA server is around 140 to 160. I read posts about East Coast to NA server in West Coast and it is around 80-120 in general. It takes around 12 hours flight from Hong Kong to West Coast, while it takes around 3 hours flight from East Coast to West Coast. Then the ping from East to West Coast should be just like 40.

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Kat Head3 votes

140 on NA 130 on EU 45 on LAN

I live in bama.

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Killer X 122 votes

... It varies, but east coast ping is about 85-160. Mine is usually 120.

Arveanor2 votes

I'm not entirely sure how a packet gets from Hong Kong to California, but I would imagine that there would be very few hops for the routers to switch your packets across, so even if it's a longer distance, there is less time spent transferring the packet across different intermediate networks. Think driving on the interstate versus driving through a town.

But hey, I don't know a lot about the infrastructure of the net so this is just my best guess.

Digitality2 votes

I get 75-80 out of Michigan consistently. Really though League isn't super frame sensitive like a fighting game where 1/6th of a second difference is losing you critical readability. And that's only compared to 160-170 ping verse 0, which no one is actually playing at. It's mostly people looking for a scapegoat.

It's certainly not a problem worth dividing the player base over.

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

from MI i get about the same ping (60-80). it's quite playable at 80 ping, but once you get to about 150 the difference is quite noticeable... the difference between 80 and 150 is really surprising...

Eleshakai2 votes

The reason for this is that distance isn't as big of a factor as people like to think. Internet data travels fast. The problem isn't the location of the server, but the number of carrier changes between East and West Coast.

SoapySeahorse1 votes

West Coast ping isn't 0. Its about 60-80 for me. That means it increased 20-40 on the East Coast. Next, its a 6 hour flight across the US, not 3. You'd expect a 40-80 increase to Hong Kong which is about what you said you get.

hjewel1 votes

West Coast ping isn't 0. Its about 60-80 for me. That means it increased 20-40 on the East Coast. Next, its a 6 hour flight across the US, not 3. You'd expect a 40-80 increase to Hong Kong which is about what you said you get.

I just google and it says In-air flight time: 4 hours, 47 minutes from NY to LA. Yes almost 5 hours. On the same website it says 15 hours from Hong Kong to LA. So it is around 3 times more.

SoapySeahorse2 votes

West Coast ping isn't 0. Its about 60-80 for me. That means it increased 20-40 on the East Coast. Next, its a 6 hour flight across the US, not 3. You'd expect a 40-80 increase to Hong Kong which is about what you said you get.

I just google and it says In-air flight time: 4 hours, 47 minutes from NY to LA. Yes almost 5 hours. On the same website it says 15 hours from Hong Kong to LA. So it is around 3 times more.

Weird. I got 6 hours and 20 minutes from LA to NYC and 12 hours from Hong Kong to LA. Whichever though. I think the town or interstate metaphor could also explain it.

Caezium1 votes

Yeah it seems odd. Some people do get really bad ping in the East Coast.

I do not have "terrible" ping but it could be better. Perhaps it's just the infrastructure of the internet in the US just being bad.

Penguin Eclipse3 votes

Yeah it seems odd. Some people do get really bad ping in the East Coast.

I do not have "terrible" ping but it could be better. Perhaps it's just the infrastructure of the internet in the US just being bad.

The problem is that there is no direct path from say New York to Portland. Some ISPs end up sending the data on indirect paths that end up going through California. And since Riot is multi-homed, they may not send data back using the same path which could actually be even worse. For example my ISP uses Above.net to reach Riot. But Riot could send the data back using Level3. My ISP is not a Level3 customer. So Level3 would have to send the data to another provider such as Above.net or XO who my ISP is also a customer of. Who knows where Level3 will send the data to in order to get it to XO. From that location XO may not have a very direct route to my ISP. Things get complicated very quickly.

If Riot had put servers in a location that made sense then ping would not be an issue. Putting your servers on the very edge of the West Coast when the service you are providing is highly latency dependent makes absolutely no sense. Portland doesn't even have direct routes to many people on the West Coast, much less the East coast.

hjewel1 votes

Well Hong Kong ping to Europe is really bad, may be because almost no one cares internet to Europe so the ISP in Hong Kong doesn't seriously build network stuff to speed up to Europe. Ping is over 200 to 300 something so I don't play EWU or EUNE.

Benard De Vos1 votes

Good to know about Hong Kong. My Bangladesh ping is rarely below 300 and closer to 400. Time to move!

Zen Fury1 votes

It's certainly not a problem worth dividing the player base over.

Ok. The ping time applies in both directions. If you're at 120 ping, that's almost a 1/4 second delay before factoring in any human reaction time.

For a bronze level player, that won't make much of a difference. For higher level players where timing is critical a 1/4 second is the difference between winning a team fight and losing a team fight. It's the difference between landing a skillshot or missing a skillshot. It's the difference between executing a dragon smite steal or feeding the enemy team a free kill.

And this isn't even getting into the random lag spikes and lost connections caused from having oversubscribed servers.

If this wasn't such a big deal, then we'd see Riot holding championship matches all over the place without needing a LAN setup. It would be "fair" no matter where you physically were. But that isn't the case. Not by a long shot.

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

120 ping is 1/8 second :P

and missing skillshots is a problem at all elo, albeit to a lesser extent at low elo.

CJ Entus CoCoa1 votes

120-140 most days, sometimes it's around 100-110 if i'm lucky. nyc here

i've stopped playing any champ that takes skill to play. only rammus, udyr, mundo, and skarner for me

Maliginant1 votes

North Carolina player here, I tend to have around a 100-130ms ping when I play on the NA servers and ~100 the few times I've played on the EUW servers.

GTG Roaming1 votes

Who cares now, if you play league of legends in Hong Kong, pings are now over 220.

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