why am i just learning of this item as a nami player?

hOrnn·Oct 22, 2014·1 votes·812 views

ardent censer

15 Comments

ChunkOct 22, 20143 votes

Because it's bad?

ZargOct 22, 20142 votes

It's not bad. When used on a champion that can give a shield/heal to multiple allies you basically get a team on steroids. Mantra Shield on Karma, for example.

Deep Terror NamiOct 22, 20142 votes

I main Nami, so even though I'm Silver 2 I want to interject;

It is a good item. Decent stats if it doesn't take you over your CDR limit.

You have to consider who is on your team. If you have 2 powerful Auto-Attack based carries (and not always split pushing without you there) or just an excess of AD, I'd say it's worth it. If your only AA based teammate is your ADC, the buff is a bit of a waste.

hOrnnOct 22, 20141 votes

I main Nami, so even though I'm Silver 2 I want to interject;

It is a good item. Decent stats if it doesn't take you over your CDR limit.

BUT

You have to consider who is on your team. If you have 2 powerful Auto-Attack based carries (and not always split pushing without you there) or just an excess of AD, I'd say it's worth it. If your only AA based teammate is your ADC, the buff is a bit of a waste.

i think its a good idea for riot to add an item like this, however they should make it so it has another upgrage or two, to make it more cost efficent late game.

right now my nami build slots are taken up, and with 0/9/21 masteries, gold quints and gold seals pick pocket and frost queens claim i get 6 items almost every game.

The All TomatoOct 22, 20142 votes

Because you don't read patch notes.

hOrnnOct 22, 20141 votes

giving your adc attack speed boots worth of attack speed is bad?

AKL ZCXOct 22, 20141 votes

It's just come out on patch 4.10 so not many people know of it. Beside, people normally wouldn't want to build AP on shielding and healing support.

hOrnnOct 22, 20141 votes

true, but the cdr and movespeed is really good on nami, only cons i see is the cost is not a good 5 or 6th item on her.

DunderflumpOct 22, 20141 votes

It's not an amazing item on Nami, but it can sometimes be effective based on teamcomp.

hOrnnOct 22, 20141 votes

It's not an amazing item on Nami, but it can sometimes be effective based on teamcomp.

if you are using nami right, getting multiple bounces in teamfights would make it strong, thats 50% of free attack speed. well not free, it cost 2200 gold but you understand.

that being said the best nami build i have come by is as follows.

crucible frost queens claim cdr boots/mobi if you win your lane extremely early and want to roam ninja tabi if its 5 ad. frozen heart/omen sight stone locket

this build makes it so you can take a hit, have max cdr, well you have abit over max cdr i believe with my 0/9/21 masteries so could go mobis, have good regen, and good mana pool, i rush chalice always even before sight stone, its priority.

i also find jinx the best adc with nami, both of them compliment each others kits very well, both have slows and hard cc, the lock down is real, and there passives mesh so well.

Sage IdallianOct 22, 20141 votes

Lux Lightspeed Lux Lux

item 3069 item 3274 item 3504 item 3023 item 2045 item 3003

Enjoy what essentially amounts to lots of free crowd control, zooming around at well over 500 movement speed, and the best part is the teamwide shield that double-procs the censor leading to an even larger steroid.

Works best with Graves or Lucian. Still useful with: Twitch, MF, Ashe (Utility Lane) Not recommended with: Jinx, Vayne

Run Movespeed Quints, Mpen Reds, armor/level yellows, mres/level blues.

4/5/21

Playstyle: Backline support that does extremely well in peeling and damage supplementation. Extremely good at chasing. You are paper thin, however, so not getting caught is -EXTREMELY- important, though in many cases, your speed/ghosts/coin active will be more than enough to get you out of situation.

With the 4 points in offense for CDR and a blue elixir, you have max CDR. Use that to your advantage. You can force people to tilt easily and try to kill you and chain CC them until backup arrives for what amounts to a very easy kill.

You're welcome.

hOrnnOct 22, 20141 votes

Lightspeed Lux

Enjoy what essentially amounts to lots of free crowd control, zooming around at well over 500 movement speed, and the best part is the teamwide shield that double-procs the censor leading to an even larger steroid.

Works best with Graves or Lucian. Still useful with: Twitch, MF, Ashe (Utility Lane) Not recommended with: Jinx, Vayne

Run Movespeed Quints, Mpen Reds, armor/level yellows, mres/level blues.

4/5/21

Playstyle: Backline support that does extremely well in peeling and damage supplementation. Extremely good at chasing. You are paper thin, however, so not getting caught is -EXTREMELY- important, though in many cases, your speed/ghosts/coin active will be more than enough to get you out of situation.

With the 4 points in offense for CDR and a blue elixir, you have max CDR. Use that to your advantage. You can force people to tilt easily and try to kill you and chain CC them until backup arrives for what amounts to a very easy kill.

You're welcome.

no thanks.

im to greedy for ms quints on a champion that has an amazing ms steroid, that passive, gold quints to good atm.

themaddscientistOct 22, 20141 votes

I don't feel it's a bad item, I just don't feel like it beats out item 3190 or item 3222 , and between those two items along with item 1001 , item 2049 and item 3098 , about the only time I can see it being useful is at the end of your build. I understand that the attack speed can be useful, but unlike Sona , you can't target your entire team with it, and if you target an enemy for your first bounce, you don't necessarily know where the second and (maybe) third bounce is going, so you can't easily make use of it unless you target an ally right off the bat, but that discourages you from using your heal to try and frontload more pain onto the enemy.

Admittedly, I don't like attack speed as much as others do. Attack speed is only useful if your enemy is allowed to attack unhindered. Realistically, a carry is only going to get a small number of auto-attacks off before he's blown up or forced to bravely run away, so you have to make the most of those attacks with pure damage and maybe some armor penetration/percentage health shred. Granted, you should be able to protect the carry, but accidents happen, and when that happens item 3504 won't save their life, item 3190 and item 3222 can.

CrankyChipmonkOct 22, 20141 votes

item 3504 + Janna = bonus attack speed shielded turrets