New Zilean passive on PBE?

Mimy··2 votes·342 views

I haven't really played zilean, but I have had him on my team..

Old Passive- Zilean and nearby allied champions gain 8% additional experience from all sources.

New Passive - "Time in a Bottle Zilean stores time as Experience at a rate of [2/3.5/5/6/12 at levels 1/6/11/16/18 based on level] per 5 seconds. When he has enough Experience to finish an ally's level, he can right-click them to impart it. Zilean receives as much Experience as he gives. Cannot be used in combat.

so like level 5 comes at like around 10 minutes.. and if zilean's experiance keeps stacking.. that's like 240 experiance.... Which if you hit level 5 before the enemy laners and the XP needed to get from 5 to 6 is about 448 you may be able to jump to level 6 if you use it when you're just about half way to level 6!

I'm not sure what to think, but I think this is kind of cool! Okay Immagine you are botlane.. with your zilean support. You hit level 5 before the enemy lane and as soon as they hit 5, your Zilean gives you experiance to get level 6 and the enemy lane is pushed up a bit..

TIME TO ALL IN! Zilean

#What do you think?

Idk if this is a nerf or buff but that surprise level up may surprise unsuspecting people eh? :3 Probably plan a gank at the time too..

10 Comments

71389310_DEL2 votes

I'm not very excited about the new passive. I'd rather have had his passive be something to replace his Rewind skill; maybe using an ability would give you the option to cast it again within five seconds of the cast, excluding his ultimate. His skill, Rewind, feels very unsatisfying since they disabled it from working with his ultimate and since I'm sure that change won't be reverted I feel replacing Rewind with another skill and then making his passive similar in function to what Rewind currently is would be a better option.

That said, once I can actually play and/or see the play of this PBE Zilean and try out and/or see this "passive" he has on the PBE I might feel differently.

Mimy1 votes

Seems pretty interesting. then if his rewind is his passive what would be his W?

71389310_DEL1 votes

I honestly have read so many different ideas over the years ( some good, most bad ) that I wouldn't be surprised with whatever Riot would stick in there. As somebody who turned to pre-rework Zilean on his very first account and that is now playing Zilean on this account ( I just returned to League recently and am re-learning the game ) I'd have to go with another time concept to fit his theme. We already have a skill for time travel in Zilean's ult, a skin that ( whether intentional or not ) plays on the Big Bang Theory/time with his Q, and a skill that plays on the physical effects of time-;specifically Time Dilation in his E. I think a skill based on a cyclical view of time could be interesting or even the passive you speak of being his W as a good thing. Either way I'm not really qualified to pitch any serious suggestions until I re-learn the game a bit more.

71389310_DEL1 votes

I didn't think of this when I was replying to you the second time ( this reply is a reply to the comment I just mentioned ) but I would be very happy with a "time heals all wounds" type of skill where he passively gives mild increases the regeneration rates or items/buffs around him with an active component that disables the passive regeneration and rapidly increases the regeneration rates of a specific targets around him. Not sure how it would play out number-wise and I imagine it would require a lot of tweaking to become perfect but I'd be interested to see how it would play out on the PBE.

Mimy1 votes

I LOVE THAT OMG! That gives him and his lane partner a little bit of sustain!

Maybe a passive and an active to "Fast Foreward" into the future and have it be a minor heal?.. (Because Zilean seems to rely more on "Rewinding" then fast forewarding.. except that speed boost..

I think Sona's passive would be cool on him as well if each of his abilities has the power to either fast foreward or rewind.. slow or speed up time.. like if the speed boost was also able to slow down enemies around him..

His ult.. (This would be broken to all levels of TEEMO!) but.. what if someone dies close to zilean after he used his ulti on someone but someone else died.. what if the death timer was sped up? as a "Fast Foreward" instead of the rewind part of his ultimate?

#You know what I shouldn't balance things Id be the most hated person...

I just returned to League recently and am re-learning the game

Welcome back.. I hope You enjoy being back. I'm sure you know the community can be pretty salty at times but yea.. x3

71389310_DEL2 votes

#You know what I shouldn't balance things Id be the most hated person...

I agree; please don't start balancing. I do like the thought of maybe the active being a fast-forward though where the health restored = your regen stats over X total of time.

OverpoweredSoap2 votes

Honestly, I don't think it's a good thing.

When someone has the ability to increase experience, it tends to be way too strong or way too weak.

I gotta give it to riot for trying to keep Zilean's passive unique and the same, but I personally think extra experience is something that's just too hard to balance.

Mimy1 votes

True.. Very true...

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Seems like another unnecessary rework, trying to make a champion more fun, but instead making them too complex to be fun. Also sounds like they're purposely making him synergize with mordekaiser, just so they have an excuse to gut him again.

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