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zeskgames·Feb 4, 2018·111 votes·5,736 views

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NaonFeb 4, 201818 votes

Couldn't be more accurate. I miss the assassin meta tbh. ADCs actually had to worry about dying. Now they just instantly blow the assassin up so he/she can't even do their 1 job that they had to begin with.

Atleast once an assassin went in and did their rotation, they were done and most likely going to die after. ADCs don't even have to worry about this. They point and auto attack things to death like they are a walking turret.

zeskgamesFeb 4, 201861 votes

My problem with the Assassin meta is that if they got even a little ahead squishy champs weren't allowed to play the game. Case and point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW_st2H2Y2Y

Not saying the ADC meta is much better but that might just be me.

ChaosThiefFeb 4, 20187 votes

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My problem with the Assassin meta is that if they got even a little ahead squishy champs weren't allowed to play the game. Case and point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW_st2H2Y2Y

Not saying the ADC meta is much better but that might just be me.

To be fair, that's a really extreme example... and just Rengar. As soon as people found out about it, he became a one trick pony who only ever did that.

Now with all the awkward assassin reworks and massive delays assassins just aren't as good at doing their jobs anymore.

zeskgamesFeb 5, 20185 votes

That's a fair point, but let me hit you with a dank ass metaphor real-quick. The current situation is just like this picture, and the game it comes from "Wolfienstine II: The New Colossus" Though with all of this protection and ridiculous offense it seems impossible to assassinate ADCS, but just like in the game though it seems impossible to take these behemoths down, BJ (the protag) proves that it's still doable.

P.S. Not tryin to toot my own horn or anything, but on the few assassins I play I can still kill most squishes. You just gotta be smart about it, your probably not gonna be able to kill a ADC that's hidden behind three tanks or with their support (everybody forgets supports are champs 2) But when they stray to far, their easy pickings.

Valaran NaraFeb 5, 20181 votes

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That's a fair point, but let me hit you with a dank ass metaphor real-quick. The current situation is just like this picture, and the game it comes from "Wolfienstine II: The New Colossus"

Wait, that's Wolfienstine?

I thought that was Starscream looking down upon John Constantine.

Also, in case you didn't know, John wins.

zeskgamesFeb 5, 20181 votes

Yee it's Wolfenstine, they rebooted the whole franchise and it's lit AF. This is from the second new game "The New Colossus" Here's a trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkrwUzWeACg

It's really good, seriously 10/10, some of the best story telling and action I've seen in a FPS. If you have the coin I say it's a must buy.

Spank the FoxFeb 5, 201824 votes

Let’s not pretend the forums weren’t up in arms about Akali in S4, Zed until recently, Lee Sin the “tanky assassin” and LB’s history.

The rework sucked but assassins invalidated much more than just ADCs.

ChaosThiefFeb 5, 20188 votes

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Let’s not pretend the forums weren’t up in arms about Akali in S4, Zed until recently, Lee Sin the “tanky assassin” and LB’s history.

The reworked suck but assassins invalidated much more than just ADCs.

I mean, if I recall akali in season 4 was "as soon as you saw her Q going towards you, you were dead", Zed was "ult this person and there's nothing you could do to stop him", and Lee Sin was the meta champion for quite a few seasons in a row, dominating pretty much every aspect of play due to how well rounded he was (or overly well rounded, for that matter), plus Leblanc's history of just QRW and someone goes poof. Apparently this was worse on LB's release? Though I wasn't around during that time (the hotfix an hour after release was just a legend I've heard.)

Assassins really were doing a bit too much damage or had impossibly annoying mechanics in the past, but as it currently stands some can't even assassinate targets late game because these delays gives the enemy so much room to kill them (leblanc and talon now, for example.)

Vistha D ReptileFeb 5, 20181 votes

Remember that nothing functionally changed about Akali, nor has her damage.

At least before she had to wait until she had enough ult stacks to kill you at 6, now the moment level up happens you're dead.

ChaosThiefFeb 5, 20181 votes

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Remember that nothing functionally changed about Akali, nor has her damage.

At least before she had to wait until she had enough ult stacks to kill you at 6, now the moment level up happens you're dead.

Well, they actually did change one thing about Akali, being that her E doesn't trigger her Q's mark anymore. Akali in general was just "if she got gunblade and 6, you were dead", if you didn't set her far behind enough.

Vistha D ReptileFeb 6, 20181 votes

But that only affected her early laning, everything else aka "get half a Gunblade and level 6 to auto-win the lane" is exactly the same. She can also spam Qs either to farm or to out-sustain the other laner unless they can output twice as much damage if she ever gets near enough to AA a creep.

Sp33d Zer0Feb 5, 20183 votes

This is not just rengar. I have seen these kinds of kills from Zoe, from Syndra, from Akali, from Khazix, from Talon, from Wukong, from Veigar. Anyone with high upfront damage is still doing these ridiculous plays.

Vistha D ReptileFeb 5, 20187 votes

Syndra

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/248/330/675.jpg

I know people were butthurt (still are?) about Syndra, but putting her next to Zoe or Kha'Zix or Talon or Veigar is just insulting.

Sp33d Zer0Feb 6, 20183 votes

That's fair, khazix and talon dont have long range hard cc.

Vistha D ReptileFeb 6, 20182 votes

That's fair, Syndra doesn't have long range mobility, invisibility and every ability needs at least 0.5 second before it does anything.

FefnilFeb 5, 20181 votes

Actually, I think the problem with the Assassin meta is that if they got even a little ahead TANKY champs weren't allowed to play the game, not the squishy ones. As a mage, you could still "hope" to try and get them from range. After all, assassins die as fast as they kill when it's their meta. And as a marksman, well, you could just do the most damage you can to the frontline before popping out. But as a tank that wants to peel for his team, a fed assassin in assassin meta is a nightmare. They can't do damage and they can't cc, because they get popped just as fast as a squishy champion, without being able to do anything at all.

NodirjonSattarovFeb 5, 20181 votes

OMG one of my favorite videos! His sequel is funny too.

LOSINGISMYPRIDEFeb 5, 20181 votes

this was not a one shot but a A MAIS LA SA CASSE LES COUILLE shot !! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

SkorchFeb 5, 20187 votes

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Couldn't be more accurate. I miss the assassin meta tbh. ADCs actually had to worry about dying. Now they just instantly blow the assassin up so he/she can't even do their 1 job that they had to begin with.

Atleast once an assassin went in and did their rotation, they were done and most likely going to die after. ADCs don't even have to worry about this. They point and auto attack things to death like they are a walking turret.

I hate the assassin metas, sure ADC meta sucks, but so does tank metas, mage metas, assassin metas. What i just read was "At least in an assassin meta only the ADC doesnt get to play." No matter the meta 1 group isnt having fun.

zeskgamesFeb 5, 20185 votes

No matter the meta 1 group isnt having fun.

That is true

NaqelFeb 5, 20181 votes

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Couldn't be more accurate.

So assassins win in the end?

I mean, that's how it works in the game this pic is from: the small guy is actually a badass and beats robo-nazi in the end.

TormentulaFeb 5, 20187 votes

Needs more item 2419

MCNT052Feb 5, 20182 votes

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Needs more

Stop, watch what you say words hurt man

BjørnetjenestenFeb 5, 20187 votes

All i can see in this picture is a retarded assassin main going in 3 v 1 and thinking he should be allowed to kill the adc that got fed by his mistakes.

zeskgamesFeb 5, 20184 votes

This guy gets it, I think the one thing assassin mains forget when they "get killed by an ADC with 3.7k health from 14 screens away" is that tanks and supports count as champions to. So when you run in 1v3, 1v4, 1v2, or whatever they forget that the ADC isn't the only person present. Also all the comments about "supports make it impossible to do my job" but I'm just sitting there like "aren't they supposed to protect teammates?" [zombie-nunu-bummed]

KarfussFeb 5, 20182 votes

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All i can see in this picture is a retarded assassin main going in 3 v 1 and thinking he should be allowed to kill the adc that got fed by his mistakes.

Same here. The question raised is whether an assassin should be allowed to kill the ADC in the middle of their team.

I don't think so. In a team fight, I do feel the ADC should be SOMEWHAT more vulnerable, to allow an assassin to have any sort of relevance beyond lane phase, but 1v3-4-5? Nope.

I advocate giving assassins more healing/shield reduction options. Executioner's Calling is meh.

saltranFeb 5, 20184 votes

You know, if an Assasin can't go 1 vs 5, kill the adc and then escape they are bad for the Boards.

RainbowIceeFeb 5, 20185 votes

why is that league assassin trying to kill anyone but minions? smh dude you're gonna die man, that's dangerous. go split push and distract them enemy team on a chase.

Jinx HunterFeb 5, 20185 votes

replace assassin with fighter and it still applies.

Tessel8Feb 5, 20185 votes

This is a very bad example since Terror Billy still wrecks the shit out of it...

Or maybe that makes it a perfect example...

Evil YasuoFeb 5, 20184 votes

This is beautiful <3

ReySolomonFeb 4, 20183 votes

lol.. perfect.

CPU LyricaFeb 4, 20183 votes

Old rengar Q is coming back. and with it, the bane of ADC's shall rise again.

DuskDaUmbreonFeb 5, 20183 votes

The bane of literally everyone but Rengar, and then it'll become even Rengar's bane, because he'll hit a 150% banrate, shall rise again.

FTFY

greekvandaLFeb 5, 20181 votes

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Old rengar Q is coming back. and with it, the bane of ADC's shall rise again.

considering you cant start the combo with an empowered Q anymore no you wont even better you gonna survive more easily cause there is a bigger delay to the combo with old Q incomparison to the new one with how the stacks work now unless completely mastered on low ping. Have fun with ap rengar tho :D

PROJECT KatarìnaFeb 5, 20183 votes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277245008250273792/409914690601484291/314700020253196289.png

Baron BarianFeb 5, 20183 votes

You know, there should be a 5v5 game where people are controlling parts for a Megazord/Voltron/Jaeger thing, and the limbs they pick give different weapons to the mech.

zeskgamesFeb 5, 20181 votes

That sounds like the memeiest thing ever and I would totally play it. I CALL LEFT FOOT!

Lushen0928Feb 5, 20183 votes

U forgot to put stopwatch at the top [sg-ahri-1] the worst item ever added zed ult for a kill on ad where they suicide under tower for the shutdown NOPE

zeskgamesFeb 5, 20181 votes

I had only so much space on the thing! Ya'll need to calm down!

JofeyyFeb 5, 20181 votes

As an assassin main... Yeah LOL. You also forgot to add stopwatch on everyone :P

zeskgamesFeb 5, 20181 votes

There's only so much space on the picture [slayer-jinx-wink]

XxDRAGONsAK47xXFeb 5, 20181 votes

That's actually so true...

I almost won a 4v5 in ranked, it was pretty even until we got ahead.

Then everyone got to 6 items... We never got a kill after that, Kha Zix simply can't kill an adc with 2 tanks ccing me to death.

hoyohaiFeb 8, 20181 votes

I thought assassins were supposed to be strong early/mid and weak late. Is Kha'Zix supposed to be different?

XxDRAGONsAK47xXFeb 8, 20181 votes

I know they're supposed to be weaker.

But that weak!!?? I can't even go into a fight without dying instantly. It was just annoying being so useless after having such a lead.

HeresyHorusFeb 5, 20181 votes

I do not know what u are talking about, never had problems 100-0 ADCs with AD Assassins before.

All i see are stupid Assassin mains who still stack flat Arm Pen thinking it is still what it used to be back then.

item 3147 is the only core flat Arm Pen item u need, the second Arm Pen should be either item 3035 or item 3814 / item 3142 but only if they got 0 armor and run 100% crit 6 damage items builds.