Dodging her E is not as simple as you make it seem, it used to be but after adding the instant detonation is kinda hard.
But it needs to charge to deal proper damage, right?
No?
My bad, then. But the slow only applies if you leave the E around.
Uhh
....you mean you get slowed by an ability that's not even there? That has to be a bug.
It is there, it goes boom but for a fraction of a second it is there.
Well, then it doesn't apply the slow for long
Uhhh. Dude, it's the same slow and damage no matter how long you keep it.
You clearly don't get what I mean.
If you enter the zone after it detonates, it doesn't slow you.
By the way, downvoting me just for being wrong is pretty rude.
No shit you won't get slowed by something that didn't hit you lmao.
Well, my point is that activating the E early decreases your zone control.
Don't ask me why that is my point, because I don't know that.
Go home, you're drunk xD
The point is that simply dodging that long ranged E is difficult. The slow amount and damage stay the same amount no matter how long it stays there.
Activating the E early means that she can press E again and it will autodetonate upon landing. Not that she can make it detonate during travel time.
Downvoting you for being wrong, cocky, and ignorant. Learn2play git gud gtfo
I'm 2/3 of those, you're 3/3. Care to guess what you are but I'm not?
It's cocky. Check back on how this argument began, the comment with 17 downvotes. You'll see if you read properly how unsure I am about my statement.
17 downvotes, wow. Seventeen people really matter.
It's a huge blow to my confidence, if nothing else.
You absolutely should not let it affect your confidence. You're above it.
none of her abilities necessarily need to do a lot of damage, it's her passive makes any damage from her a threat early game, even her shield that doesn't do damage still can mark you with her passive and do some decent damage on her next basic attack. then there is the fact her ultimate consumes the mark as well, then leaves another mark that she can use if you are still alive.
I thought it was her high damage, semi-global, AoE nuke on a 30 second cooldown as an "ultimate" ability that made her such a threat.
early game it's not as big of a problem if she hasn't gotten you low on health. so that passive ends up softening you up for her ult to do it's job. After laning is over, yes, that ult becomes most annoying thing about her (that and she can CC you every time you try to attack her). In fact I think most of the time in team fights her only job is to stand back and wait till the enemy team is low so she can ult them all at once. that passive is just a big middle finger to you at that point .__.
The range and area covered by Lux's E is fucking huge though, I mean honestly its like twice the size of a Gragas Q barrel, at a certain point shit stops being a skillshot.
It was never a skillshot. It's always been an AoE spell.
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The range and area covered by Lux's E is fucking huge though, I mean honestly its like twice the size of a Gragas Q barrel, at a certain point shit stops being a skillshot.
Pls stahp exaggerating. I've played as and against both of them, and the radius is very comparable. Lux E just looks bigger because it doesn't have a big fuck-off barrel in the center of it.
Speaking of gragas, he can already pre-detonate his Q barrel.
And actually Gragas Q is slightly bigger according to http://lol.gamepedia.com/Lux http://lol.gamepedia.com/Gragas
seriously go get a friend go in a custom and put a gragas Q on top of a lux E, the radius is almost identical
Pls stahp exaggerating. I've played as and against both of them, and the radius is very comparable. Lux E just looks bigger because it doesn't have a big fuck-off barrel in the center of it.
Speaking of gragas, he can already pre-detonate his Q barrel.
And actually Gragas Q is slightly bigger according to http://lol.gamepedia.com/Lux http://lol.gamepedia.com/Gragas
seriously go get a friend go in a custom and put a gragas Q on top of a lux E, the radius is almost identical
I'm not exaggerating at all. If you've played with both of them and think the radius is comparable then you need to get your eyes checked. "And actually Gragas Q is slighty bigger according to" OK that shits just stupid, do you believe everything you read? I don't have a friend around so you'll have to settle for a side by side comparison (which was fucking tedious as all hell to make). So as you can cleary see NO WAY IN HELL IS A GRAGAS Q BIGGER THAN A LUX E Lux's E isn't twice as big, but its WAY LARGER.
Here's Piccolo's best dodge moments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvS6zMThiZU
What should've been the OP.
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I think Ahri is fine personally, but the reason people complain about Ahri is her mobility and safety, it has nothing to do with her skillshots.
Skillshots don't make someone strong/weak.
TBH, I've had it HARDER as Ahri after the DFG-Removal changes.
Why? She still has true damage and her q actually makes engaging and disengaging easier
Yea her E just takes up over half the lane
Dodge
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, preety much dodge . In this case having a dash or flash is a
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Riot buffed her unnecessarily.
Not really. The W and E changes were more to bring her in line with champs like Gragas and Ziggs (both have similar abilities but with a pre-detonate option) and to bring her in line with champs like Sivir, Morgana, and other champs with instant shields (before, she had to finish her cast animation before her shield was applied.)
The Q buff this patch was more to assist her poke, more than anything.
We can't dodge her E now...
mains be like.
Lol@ people complaining about lux when stupid shit like fizz's e still exist, or yasuo's unlimited dashes. Like seriously? She is all skillshots, no mobility and high mana costs, miss your q? Dead. There is no room for error with Lux.
Speaking of stupid shit on Fizz, what about the ultimate with a massive hitbox that's impossible to dodge and amplifies his magic damage by 20%? (Thanks Riot for making AP Mid Fizz a thing again, you shits)
to be fair her W does travel at a pretty fair speed and has a pretty big AOE
W is her shield. . . . .
I meant her E then. But her shield is op as well, shielding her instantly and twice.lulu and Janna shields got nothing on it cause she can shield the whole team
It's been around for something like four years. I think people have learned to work around it.
it's not instant. theres a cast time.
It was changed in 5.13 so that it was instant.