Top Lane In Patch 6.18

JVP15·Sep 9, 2016·96 votes·5,296 views

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TormentulaSep 9, 201646 votes

Yorick "Yes... top lane will push to their nexus! Nothing can stop our minions." Singed "I agree, my Zz'Rot shall take their tower as I proxy farm behind theirs!" Heimerdinger "But my turrets shall melt the competition with the amazing damage they do!" Yorick Singed "Time to shove this wave of minions!!!"

Nasus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsBByTiKfyY

CarameI FrappeSep 9, 20168 votes

Played Nasus against a Singed .

He had 300 farm, and was stacking gold .... but he let me farm in return. Turns out when I had item 3065 item 3025 item 3512 completed, he just couldn't stop me from pushing. Fun game indeed, for me. Then again most people prevent me from farming so it was a breath of fresh air personally lol.

Velzard of KozSep 9, 20162 votes

My Little Farm Nasus skin. We need it.

Swiftstrike4Sep 9, 20161 votes

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Played against a .

He had 300 farm, and was stacking gold .... but he let me farm in return. Turns out when I had completed, he just couldn't stop me from pushing. Fun game indeed, for me. Then again most people prevent me from farming so it was a breath of fresh air personally lol.

Most Nasus player let Singed farm and Singed players typically don't know what they can do against a Nasus.

AckelopeSep 10, 20161 votes

I'd say Singed's best bet might be to just proxy. Means Nasus will get stacks just fine, sure, but until pretty late in the game he won't be able to 1v1 towers and push against the Singed.

D3m37r1Sep 9, 201614 votes

You forgot Illaoi . Tentacles give stacks

TormentulaSep 9, 20169 votes

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You forgot . Tentacles give stacks

And her love: Gangplank

Kuzja1Sep 9, 20164 votes

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And her love:

Oh God. . . that fact still bothers me

TyrekGoldenspearSep 9, 201613 votes

Gangplank is like: Arrg, hands off me booty.

Cuarto4444Sep 9, 201619 votes

Azir My army doesn't give Nasus stacks Sivir You still can't really fight him though Azir You shush now

I agree with nasus, army or no, it's just free stacks, as always.

Ace Access Sep 9, 20169 votes

Yorick I have a ghost army Illaoi I have tentacles Heimerdinger I have turrets Gangplank I have barrels Malzahar I have voidlings

Nasus lol I have a Q

Gragas I have diabetes

Nasus what does that have to do with anything ?

Pale PirateSep 10, 20161 votes

Taric I have Geeeeemss.

CrazyBigfoot28Sep 10, 20161 votes

Teemo I have shrooms

Ace Access Sep 10, 20161 votes

Nasus buys and stars spamming E

Darth StepVaderSep 9, 20168 votes

Just played Nasus vs Yorick . I'm not saying the guy was a god with yorick, it was probably his first time and quite frankly, if it was me i would have used his W better....anyway. Around 10 minutes i had 170 stacks. His Q was doing decent damage to my Nasus early but, he also provided me with so many stackable targets during laning phase, not to mention that whenever yorick needs to trade he simply auto-pushes(the wall offers no stacks...damn).

Having 490+ stacks at 20 mins and a big gold lead allowed me to simply split and end the game fast. All in all, it's certain that far superior yorick players will arise but, i would call this a bad matchup for him from what i've seen so far.

RaptorKarrSep 9, 20163 votes

So nothings changed?

AlienPrimateSep 9, 201615 votes

What changed is Yorick will be a common pick and Nasus will be a common counter pick.

OdinakosSep 9, 20167 votes

It seems noone remember the atrocity that Yorick was before getting ~~nerfed~~ toned down. Sometimes even now. I remember a lot Susans trying to counter Yorick because "Free stacks! What can go wrong?". And then realized that they were against the strongestt top lane bully, so strong that he even took Darius' lunch money. Susan may had decent stacks but his items were lagging behind like playing from ISS. Trought cable. With the old connection that you either had phone or internet.

Darth StepVaderSep 9, 20162 votes

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It seems noone remember the atrocity that Yorick was before getting ~~nerfed~~ toned down. Sometimes even now. I remember a lot Susans trying to counter Yorick because "Free stacks! What can go wrong?". And then realized that they were against the strongestt top lane bully, so strong that he even took Darius' lunch money. Susan may had decent stacks but his items were lagging behind like playing from ISS. Trought cable. With the old connection that you either had phone or internet.

Naaah...not really. Old Yorick was never a problem for my Nasus. You just started with lots of armor and outscaled him pretty fast and hard.

My Waifu VanillaSep 9, 20161 votes

The problem was Yorick ran out of mana and auto pushed you under tower so you just kind of farmed anyway and you inevitably hit your like 120 stacks or whatever it is to one shot casters and you just outscaled and ignored him.

Darth StepVaderSep 9, 20161 votes

He didn't run out of mana. As i've seen from my own tests, the new Yorick has pretty good mana costs and the one i faced had more mana than my nasus most of the time. The auto-push his abilities caused and my stacking of armor was his undoing. I believe Yorick will be extremely effective against champions with minimal hp sustain and that are mainly aa based. Enemies that have AoE abilities and high levels of sustain should be able to deal with Yorick's minions fast and then engage on him. Furthermore, if while fighting him you keep in mind that you have to dodge his E, then you've pretty much won the duel.

His ult does a lot of damage but, his cc is quite poor, especially since his wall is like a bad veigar cage. Yorick will find his place eventually though. He's quite strong and oppressive against champions with low waveclear.

My Waifu VanillaSep 9, 20161 votes

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The problem was Yorick ran out of mana

Past tense. I was referring to old Yorick as a response to you also talking about old Yorick and was agreeing with you. The problem is new yorick is a split push bot that really....doesn't do much outside of a Yorick VS Any-Tank-But-Maokai match up since almost the entire top lane roster can out trade him or sustain through him. All you have to really do to beat Yorick in lane is dodge his E and fight him when he has anything less than 3 graves (which is most of the laning phase). Yorick just gets knocked around too much in lane and lost any hopes of sustaining much since the "heal" they gave his Q is an insult and is only there to say "well we didn't remove his healing completely".

They need to get rid of that god awful heal that heals for about the same as Hiten Style (but only on one auto attack) and instead just give his minions Warlord's Bloodlust or something where they heal him for a lower amount on minions but a larger amount if they hit champions. It would be a more impactful heal, but gated by a much longer "cooldown" than his old E was where you just threw it on a champion and healed for like 150 on a 4 second cd or whatever.

RequiemsfireSep 9, 20162 votes

Meanwhile

Pantheon : I always wanted to be a baker Yorick : A baker? I remember those. : I'm going to make shepherd's pie! >:c

Btw Pantheon's passive Aegis Shield blocks Yorick's Q, making him probably one of the strongest counters Yorick.

Meep ManSep 9, 20161 votes

But can his shield be "popped" by a Mist Walker?

RequiemsfireSep 9, 20161 votes

Not sure, but there is no reason for Pantheon or any champion to try and fight Yorick with mist walkers up. I should try and wasn't really paying attention in my last match up against Yorick because mainly when his ghouls were up I'd just run away if he summoned them and throw spears at him whenever I could.

Bladerunner7777Sep 9, 20165 votes

assuming Pantheon wouldn't counter him by default because he's Pantheon

NetherlifeSep 10, 20161 votes

But does it block a Nasus Q? That's the real question everyone's asking.

Sona x RubickSep 10, 20161 votes

AA->Q

Mathlete864Sep 9, 20162 votes

I am totally gonna duo with my friend and split push to victory Yorick + item 3512 + item 3060 Heimerdinger + +

Great MutaSep 9, 20162 votes

"I have an army"

"About 10 top laners have a dash or a jump of some kind making your cage useless."

Bladerunner7777Sep 9, 20161 votes

A mini jarvan ult is still good

Great MutaSep 9, 20161 votes

You can't get out of J's ult without a flash.

Bladerunner7777Sep 9, 20163 votes

Vayne Q, all I'm gonna say

RaptorKarrSep 10, 20161 votes

Riven E

3ofGot40veSep 10, 20161 votes

Ward hop Katarina

LifaFreezeSep 10, 20161 votes

Ekko e

cyberchadeSep 10, 20161 votes

clone will push him out
if he can build up the passive
can shoffle out
if there is a bush
Q
i think i have made my point

Truly not GaySep 14, 20161 votes

Aatrox Ahri Akali Alistar Amumu AurelionSol Azir Bard Braum Corki Ekko Elise Ezreal Fiddlesticks Fiora Fizz Gnar Gragas Irelia Jax Kalista Kassadin Katarina Khazix Kindred Leblanc LeeSin Leona Lissandra Malphite Maokai MasterYi Nidalee Nocturne Pantheon RekSai Rengar Riven Ryze Sejuani Shaco Shen Shyvana TahmKench Taliyah Talon Thresh Tristana Tryndamere TwistedFate Urgot Vayne Warwick MonkeyKing XinZhao Yasuo Zac Zed Ziggs

I think that's all of them. I could be wrong on some ability mechanics because of lack of knowledge of some champs and may have missed some, but this list shows there are a ton of champs that can jump walls.

ItsOrvalSep 9, 20161 votes

Doge gets kited too easily. gg doge gg

Serika ZeroSep 9, 20161 votes

doge puts atk speed slow on adc => adc does 50% less dmg, doge did his job. Now he kills enemy front line who engages on his team.

My Waifu VanillaSep 9, 20161 votes

That's if the dog can ever get in range to wither.

Serika ZeroSep 9, 20162 votes

it has 600 rage. And Nasus is generally on the front lines. So, if the ADC wants to do anything (except like Jhin) they got to step into Nasus's range. And the likes of Tristana or Caitlyn are 1 teemo away from his getting in W range.

The other type of Nasus is on split push duty, so he doesn't care about kiting as he doesn't fight hue

ItsOrvalSep 9, 20161 votes

You realize all the ADC's have a kit that allows doge to get kited even when he slows right. Jhin's W, Ashes Q, Vaynes Q/R, Kalista Passive, Trist, Jinx, lucian. Doge cant catch them unless he has huge mobility.

Serika ZeroSep 10, 20161 votes

bu the doge doesn't have to chase the adc, he just has to press W on them 0w0 why does everyone think Nasus has to chase the adc around (or the apc for that matter) ?

your entire role as doge in team fights it to press W on the enemy adc, halfing their damage output and then protect your carries. The fact that the enemy has kite tools is irrelevant because you shouldn't be chasing them unless they made a huge mistake like stepping in point blank at you or the likes of that.

doubleguacSep 9, 20161 votes

Is Nasus actually strong against him? Ya ya I know, free stacks. But even with all of Nasus's free stacks, I feel like he could have trouble dueling yorick through the ultimate. All that %health damage.

I guess his AoE zone will probably eat the ghouls pretty fast though.

cyberchadeSep 10, 20161 votes

nasus has to much AOE for the mist walkers ty be usefull