How i feel about people who refuse to leash

That situation completely flips once he hits level 2.

Yeah, but I'm silver. People don't invade in silver unless they ARE Shaco XD

You invade shaco before the jungle creeps spawn, mainly to detonate his traps which screws up his (otherwise insane) first clear.

Well, he'd be put in his promos quite often. Eventually he'd find teams that would carry his ass through the promos and get him into higher ranks. It would only take a few thousand games.

You're just making assumptions and didnt even read my post did you?

Maybe if you were already there to leash

I am there? Lol. The problem is, is i dont do good damage early game so hes gonna get fucked and have to recall. Thats why they need to listen. Also, I dont need ganks ever top lane. Ever. Id rather have jungler go mid or adc, i dont need his help

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If I had 1 lp for every time someone refused leash then wasted their flash to go ham level 2, and give up 1st blood, I'd have 3 LP.

Kinda necroposting here...but-

Does this really not happen to other people? I was pretty serious about the scenario (joking about challenjour part obviously..I don't think I've played enough ranked gamed to even hit challenger, even if I won every single one of them.) But really, this happens to me all the time:

-Guy refuses to leash or gives 1 autoattack leash..sometimes even aa canceling themselves and not even dealing damage with the autoattack. -Guy goes straight into his/her lane and starts spaming whatever skill they got at level 1 as often as it's off cooldown on minions, aa'ing minions continually, shoves lane all the way to enemy tower. -I'm off doing my 1st clear, watching lanes and whatnot, deciding if I should B and buy or clear 1 more camp. -1ST BLOOD ..guy who didn't leash/leashed very poorly dies, usually involving them taking at least 1 tower shot because they're trying to play agro right on the edge of enemy tower range. Then they start with the 'ff@20 i got counterpicked', etc, etc chat stuff.

I have just started to depend on this to happen. Like as soon as (guy who doesn't leash) walks into their lane, I'm looking at their lane opponent and trying to figure out which item I should buy to counter them once they are fed.

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Level 7 Mastery on Kindred here, and yes, I can clarify. She doesn't need a leash, although afterwards she doesn't have optimal health for ganks.

wards will not save you from being 3 levels down, with close to no cs and tower dove you might as well afk in base as it does the same thing really

those wards are pointless, especially when you know the enemy jungler set a camp on top lane. You know you will always get ganked and always be forced out of minions gold and exp range. So, unless the rest of your team plans to help, you are stuck being 3 levels and 2 items behind your enemy top laner. But hey, at least u didn't die :D Well,you can do the not die part without wards too. Wards are only useful if your team is going to counter gank or take advantage of those and perfectly making a gank on other places, which lets be fair, it won't happen. If your team is a bunch of asses towards you, it won't matter that the enemy jungler is showing on top, they ain't even watching the top side of the mini map

the logic is, if one person refuses to "be a sport" and decides to "fuck over your team" - in the case, you the mighty never wrong jungler who is to say the other players in your team will leave you have a nice day?

then you still did great as a jungler my point is that if you refuse to play a team game because you got butthurt, its often gona lose that game if you still play it as a team (which helping the other 2 counts as, or applying pressure by counter jungling, etc) then you did great ^^