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Skelenth46 votes

Take the upvote and leave.

70640285DEL14 votes

...In all seriousness though, we all know what to do when the mage meta descends upon us- pick Veigar, the anti-mage!

Bobloser35553 votes

Kassadin is good he reduces magic damage.

KaisadiIIa5 votes

Galio item 3070

TeCoolMage3 votes

Guys, are we not noticing the fact that Veigar takes advantage of the best of both worlds, being an anti Mage Mage, while Galio is an anti Mage tank and Kassadin... Uh... Build health, MR, Mana for mobility with tankiness and deal damage while needing AP to burst... Errrrr... Bruiser?

But seriously, I think Veigar wins because Galio needs to build MR to be fully anti Mage, which in turn makes it hard tor him to take advantage of whatever the MYMU does to AP items, which may even nerf MR items. Galio, of course, bears Veigar, but Veigar beats everything else harder than Galio. Idk what Kassadin is doing, it's like he's in his own dimension, void of any coherent role.

WingsofGulgazor1 votes

kassadin is still strong in certain meta's in fact not sure how long it was but kassadin was super op in the korean meta and they nerfed him some more because of it and everyone wasn't understanding why because they didn't realize how op he was despite him completly destroying games in korea and even after some nerfs kassadin was still strong over there and really many champions might appear weak but any slight change can change the meta to be in the favor of these champion who appear subpar and make all the champions who appear strong to become weak. I mean just take a look at Maokai who had no changes and went from weak and never played to super op or Leblanc who was considered trash and a troll pick and then Faker brought him to the lcs and when Leblanc became strong and if I remember right leblanc coming in is what made assasains super op and made the assasain meta.

TeCoolMage2 votes

Umm that doesn't address my point on Kassadin needing to build a bit tanky and not being able to be full AP, at all.

La Barbotte43 votes

then watch the boards crying to riot to nerf the OP galio like they are doing right now with malph/rammus XD

SHlTBUG3 votes

you mean zed

Knoyle21 votes

No people are actually whining about AD/Autoattack counter champions being strong in an AD/rightclickforpenta Meta.

TurquoiseYoshi7 votes

Nowhere in the same universe as the Zed complaints. The armor champ complaints were just some top laners who got a little upset that Malph was strong at every stage of the game, which Riot agreed with so they nerfed Malph. That was pretty much it.

La Barbotte2 votes

zed complaint are due to his strong and unfair laning phase for an assassin (supposed to be their weakness), while rammus and malph counter ad metas people cry that those picks are OP instead of picking based on allies and enemy team comps, same will happen after the mage update and the AP meta, galio will be ''OP'' and ''unfair'' and ''dont take dmg while doing too much dmg''

Starcraft243ver1 votes

wait wat ? assassins laning is supposed to be their strength (depends on the match up tho)

PDE5 Inhib2 votes

I think OP means that Zed has immobile mage level poke, mobile mage level safety, and easy-mode cs ability, while still have a free kill at 6 button. Most other assassins don't have much more than deletion ability, which is what most people view assassins to be.

La Barbotte1 votes

what i meant is, its legit that assassin blow up their counterpart in lane (they are built to win 1v1's) BUT, zed get to farm from so far, and poke from so far, he kinda is a mage at that point, only difference between him and lets say ahri is the melee AA, but then again, with that gap closer it deosnt really matter, he will farm and poke until he wins, thats where he's unfair, other assassin's have to go up close and personal to do their dmg rotation / farm

Vellich0r1 votes

Their pre 6 laning is supposed to be their weaknesses. If you shut them down then you are supposed to be able to race their damage by building zhonya or whatever other item you prefer for the matchup. (I like to go seekers into rod of ages)

WingsofGulgazor1 votes

I mean it's a weakness for assasains like katarina and akali because they are suppose to clean up teamfights and getting fed on = 1v5 penta kills but zed has to get fed before everyone gets Qss and zhonya's where he becomes useless.... Or at least thats the idea but he really is just to strong right now but I'm really not completly sure the problem with zed is his laning phase. Whereas katarina even if she's 0/10 she still has the chance to get a penta kill even when katarina is weak in the meta.

La Barbotte2 votes

the thing with zed is that he wont go 0/10 in lane, he will sit back and free farm with Q's, and can play the role of a mage in fights, only blasting WEQE over and over again a be a shunk bot

Draqone1 votes

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the thing with zed is that he wont go 0/10 in lane, he will sit back and free farm with Q's, and can play the role of a mage in fights, only blasting WEQE over and over again a be a shunk bot

I don't play zed, I play squishy supports (with varying degrees of success) but please. There's a reason why Zed is an Energy champion - it's so that he can't do exactly exactly what you described.

La Barbotte2 votes

hes not supposed to but he does, thats the whole point of him needing nerfs

Vellich0r1 votes

Late game his energy costs are pretty easy to make up, especially if you get a blue

bill8424 votes

I will rejoice on the day when Galio reaches a 2% playrate.

PDE5 Inhib4 votes

Why? He will receive the nerf bat if he does.

La Barbotte1 votes

wasnt he at 3% last season?

Rew7111 votes

This made my day so far.

jama6559 votes

guys i think hes going to be a MasterYi main

Fefnil14 votes

You nailed it.

ViashinoWizard8 votes

A guardian is always prepared.

Auryiel4 votes

To have a mage meta you'd need to nerf to shit tier every single assassin and bruiser in the game

It's never happening

ViashinoWizard3 votes

Oh ye of little faith

FastAsHeck4 votes

What is a galio? Isn't it that a big ship with sails?

FastAsHeck1 votes

Sorry I couldnt resist [slayer-jinx-catface]

50000000000000003 votes

What is a Galio?

summonermhrysos2 votes

Ahhhhh Agar.io... ...Those motherfuckers with the snake/bat/sumo/wolf/bee icon are ALWAYS teaming up on you.... Nice pun by the way.

charcharmunro2 votes

Kinda odd how there aren't really that many anti-AP champions compared to the anti-AD champions. I suppose you could consider Kassadin and Veigar as such, but... Eh.

dunkeroni1 votes

Yasuo Zed Talon Shaco

charcharmunro2 votes

They're not strictly "anti-AP", though. More just "anti-ranged squishies".

Battlecast Sona1 votes

Kassadin and Veigar are not "eh", they are the ORIGINAL anti-mages. I mean, Kassadin takes 15% reduced magic damage... forever and ever, before you bring MR into the picture, and Veigar deals more damage the more AP his opponent has....

DorkunedAuras1 votes

He was referring to what Dunkeroni said, with Yasuo Zed Talon Shaco

TeCoolMage1 votes

inhale A vitriolic cat appears to have mistaken Charcharmunro's response to Dunkeroni as the main comment and posted a reply in the wrong place while you mistook A vitriolic cat's comment to be directed to Charcharmunro, when in reality he was referring to Charcharmunro's original statement, which is that Veigar and Kassadin are a bit 'eh'

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FistOfSharkiesha1 votes

Veigar is anti AP and Yasuo is pretty much anti AP simply because he counters skillshots. I wouldn't really consider Malphite anti-AD, moreso that he gets a tiny bit of scaling with armor. Malph can be played against any composition whereas Rammus and Galio pretty much need the enemy team to be mostly AD or mostly AP.

Meep Man1 votes

Malphite is very anti-AD. He has the biggest armor steroid in the game and it's passive. Not to mention his 50% attack speed slow.

FistOfSharkiesha1 votes

Did you read my post? I said that Malphite can flourish without being against an AD comp. Rammus and Galio are slightly better at countering full ad/ap teams but they're pathetic agains the wrong compositions.

Starblaster112 votes

AND HE GETS THE OVER 9000 MAN ULTIMATE!!!

TheBestWorstPlyr2 votes

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Rian1 votes

adc meta? mage meta? lets be honest it was and will always be the tank meta

skullzx75 votes

where the hell have you been the past few months?

Rian1 votes

Tanks are always the most goldefficient class due to the high base stats champions possess in lol + the low cost for defense items. This might be imortant because they have to tank and peel against 5 other people. But in my opinion they don't need damage at all. Give them scaling cc and better cdr scaling for there defense or something that actually fit there role.

No matter which "meta" we are in, mid/late is very hard to win without tanks and I can't tell the same for assasin, mages, bruiser (thereal one not the tanks with absurde damage). Adc's are only needed **because ** of tanks.

From time to time there are some improvements for some classes but they are considered op and reverted very fast (adc rework for example). Im not an adc player but in my opinion a lot of nerfs were not necessary.

skullzx73 votes

Those low cost defensive items are MASSIVELY outscaled by the damage items now, some damage items actually punishing tanks for being tanks (item 3036, item 3151, item 3153) And let's not forget the ever popular %hp true damage nowadays

hard to win without tanks? get a sated yi. Or the always good hyper-scaling yasuo that can delete a full build full armor tank in about 3 seconds.

Adc's are NEEDED for their seiging power, no other class can take down towers better than them, they're made for it.

In this CURRENT meta, ADC's and Assassins win games far more often than tanks.

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