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Update:
I love how in the preseason Jax has moved back to his old school build.
I solo'd baron at lvl 17 with only 
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The Poetic Zed22 votesand then the enemy team comes for you, but jokes on them, you're sated
pentakill
Chaotic Reks15 votesor raged
BeatzBoyFTW9 votesready to ruin your day
Fritterz10 votesDon't forget
ChaosThief7 votes I think we need tons of damage.
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Chicken4dinner1 votesHow is poppy doing?
Hello I am Bird1 votesWe're in the memes and Games section... Not exactly the place to question a rioter on balance ;)
Hello I am Bird1 votesGod damnit even the rioters do memes better than me xD
T RexHasTinyArms6 votes"With only"
Proceeds to list 1 item short of a full build
SPIDER FIESTA5 votesGenerally, this is a very bad idea. If you're playing with a team who you don't think will cooperate with your split-pushing strategy, the onus is on you not to split-push and put your team in a bad spot. Cohesive team-work is much much MUCH more important than your plan. Because your plan is useless if your team doesn't go along with it, no matter how good it is.
I have seen WAY WAY more games lost because one player wants to split push when the rest of the team wants to group, than I have seen won by someone deciding to split-push at the right time. Even worse though, there are a plethora of items and abilities in the game that allow a player or team to force engages. Hell, some champions have that as pretty much their entire jobs. In effect, your team cannot always choose not to engage.
Spacesuit Spiff2 votesPeople also dont know how to not get engaged on. Back off a little when the leona runs up to start a 5v4? Nah just stand still let her go in and blame whoever wasnt there because hey, helplessness gets elo
Verxint4 votesThe best part is when after they die they go "wtf are you doing jax group this meaningless section of the jungle while dragon and baron are down is very important and we must fight for it."
ThePartyLeader3 votesWhy not just team fight if your fed. You should win the teamfight easily.
Fritterz2 votesYou could look at it either way. Split pushing is a great strategy because it forces 1-2 enemies to break away from the main fight to come deal with you. If you, Jax, kill the two coming to get you, GG. If they send more than 2 people to deal with you, the rest of your team has a huge advantage.
IF DONE RIGHT!!!! Split-pushing is an incredible strategy.
ThePartyLeader2 votesCorrect split pushing works great for high level play when a team member can 1v1 anyone on enemy team. The enemy team has enough wave clear to stop a regular push and has no hard engage.
Fritterz1 votesJax :) the 1v1 king.
Only Play Darius1 votesJust gonna ignore Nasus/Yi/Tryndamere/Udyr/Yasuo huh
WutsKraken1 votes
Fritterz1 votesNasus plz. A fed Jax can eat a fed Nasus alive 1v1.
Blyted2 votesNo. Rageblade. Gunblade. Whatever you will not 1v1 a properly farmed Nasus who knows what they are doing with a jax. The only way I would ever lose a 1v1 to a jax on Nasus is if my team has fed terribly.
WutsKraken1 votesPfffft, if this is a 15/0 Jax vs a 0/10 Nasus who has less than 100 CS, of course Jax will win because that's just straight up unfair
But no Jax will ever be able to take down a competent Nasus. You can stack all the attack speed you want, Wither will cut it in half and all your damage items don't make you nearly as tanky as a Nasus who's built like a Tank because Jax's ult doesn't last forever.
Jax ult? Wither and retreat until it wears off, then fight again. Jax E? Q goes through it, even if it didn't, Wither, retreat, return
I can only assume by your comment that you must've recently been stomped by a fed Jax
Fritterz1 votesNo sir, I was the Jax. I am by no means an expert. But I would not blow my ult or my E until wither has run out. It's all about the timing. I will admit a 1000 stack Nasus could probably 1v1 just about anyone. But few ...Nasuses... Nasus'... Nasi... Nasen... hmmm... I'll go with Nasuses ever get to that point.
WutsKraken2 votesI don't even need 1k stacks to take on a Jax as Nasus, 450 will do in most cases, especially with Jax's new squishier builds
Anyway, this must've been a really stupid Nasus you beat down, or if you're speaking from theory then let me break down some numbers:
Its now possible to get 40% CDR with 
, assuming Nasus is farming competently these 3 items net to being 6650 gold and about 360 stacks around 20 minutes, cheaper than 
which nets to 7200 gold alone add up to 6300 gold. Or if you don't opt for a Triforce, then add up to 5900, with a , that's 6950 or a 
its 7100
If you were jungling, then 
or 
adds up to 8750 gold, if you want to break apart the triforce pieces, then it'll add up at the cheapest with at 6000 gold
Oh cool, finally a cheaper build than Nasus' right? Alright cool...but you have way less health and Nasus' HP pool and resistances with his items will allow him to shred apart Jax, 90 extra armor Nasus gets 70 extra MR and 500 extra HP vs a Jax who is relying entirely on his nerfed to oblivion base stats and a full damage build, at most he'll get 250 more HP with his laning build with a Triforce
With 40% CDR I can almost PERMA-WITHER a Jax, with a rank 1 wither (with a STUPID nasus), that's a 9 second CD with a 5 second duration meaning 4 seconds Jax can viably fight back. With Rank 5 Wither (a SMART Nasus) this will be 7.6 second CD, 2.6 seconds Jax can viably fight back
BUT WAIT: Frozen heart reduces attack speed by 15% and stacks with Wither! Even without wither, when Jax (A champion who relies almost entirely on autoattacks) jumps on him, he immediately loses 15% of his attack speed. Even worse is he needs to keep attacking to get his own speed stacks
Additionally: the new jungle nets 34 less gold per clear and than before whereas lane minions net more gold, even worse for Jax: The items all got jacked up in price!. This means that while the jungle Jax build is cheaper, it's harder for him to get the gold for his items. He will NEED to get fed to get his items in time vs a farming Nasus and if he does this, he has less devourer stacks
For laning: Nasus has sustain, Jax doesn't. A stupid Nasus will let Jax bully and zone him, a competent Nasus will trade back and abuse his sustain advantage. The CS, and gold, should swing towards Nasus' favor
In other words: Jax vs Nasus...very strongly in Nasus' favor, the Jax must rely almost entirely on being fed and the Nasus being stupid/very behind to stand a chance
Aestheticist1 votesYou realize jax can now dodge nasus's q right?
WutsKraken1 votesAnd if you'll notice I addressed that in response to Ravoria's post
But it's but a small victory for Jax. Doesn't change the fact Nasus' core items are overall easier to obtain, counterstrike has a longer cooldown than Siphoning Strike and Wither, and the fact Nasus can wither, retreat, return, and kill Jax or that Jax has no way to deny a Nasus' farm unless there is a huge skill difference, ie a Plat Jax vs a Silver Nasus or a new Nasus who can't farm
LynXerf1 votesAnd if you'll notice I addressed that in response to Ravoria's post
But it's but a small victory for Jax. Doesn't change the fact Nasus' core items are overall easier to obtain, counterstrike has a longer cooldown than Siphoning Strike and Wither, and the fact Nasus can wither, retreat, return, and kill Jax or that Jax has no way to deny a Nasus' farm unless there is a huge skill difference, ie a Plat Jax vs a Silver Nasus or a new Nasus who can't farm
Incorrect, a Jax can actually bully Nasus out of lane especially after he hits 6 purely by stacking his ult proc, then whacking Nasus with it followed by a W proc. This does a lot more damage than a Nasus Q, and if nasus withers Jax, he can simply leap away having done twice as much damage to Nasus. Sure, Nasus can heal up if the minion wave is at his tower, but if not he just lost a big trade, which Jax can rinse-repeat until he wants to all in with his E.
WutsKraken1 votesAs a Nasus main, I am fully aware of how this matchup works, as Jax I've won this lane before as well. Against a competent Nasus: you can poke me down all you want with the level 6 trick, and I will begin losing trades. However it doesn't change the fact that unless I'm being VERY stupid, you will only be able to harass and not kill me, I can in return weather the storm like every other Nasus vs X matchup because Jax has to push the lane for his lvl 6 trick by autoattacking 2 minions within the time span of his passive duration
Spacesuit Spiff2 votesThey just fixed the q thing
WutsKraken1 votesThen my 2nd point still stands. Wither, retreat, return
LynXerf1 votesPfffft, if this is a 15/0 Jax vs a 0/10 Nasus who has less than 100 CS, of course Jax will win because that's just straight up unfair
But no Jax will ever be able to take down a competent Nasus. You can stack all the attack speed you want, Wither will cut it in half and all your damage items don't make you nearly as tanky as a Nasus who's built like a Tank because Jax's ult doesn't last forever.
Jax ult? Wither and retreat until it wears off, then fight again. Jax E? Q goes through it, even if it didn't, Wither, retreat, return
I can only assume by your comment that you must've recently been stomped by a fed Jax
Nasus and Jax are two of my favourite champions. You have this matchup completely wrong though.
Q does indeed go through Jax's E, that was Nasus's only saving grace - but that will be changed soon. When it does, this will be 100% in favour of Jax. Even so, until then, Jax can react to wither the same way Nasus can react to Jax's E. If Nasus withers Jax, Jax can then activate E, use his W on Nasus and Q away. If Nasus ults, Jax can also ult. It does depend greatly on skill this matchup, the first to get a thornmail usually wins (thornmail reflects Q damage from Nasus, did you know). But in my experience playing as both champions vs the other one, Jax has a very slight advantage up until Nasus can get around 500 stacks.
WutsKraken1 votesThis is also assuming a Jax who is much more skilled than the Nasus, as Nasus I will never wither a Jax unless I am going all-in or he is going aggressive, in the situation you described, this sounds like a Nasus who preemptively withers a Jax for no reason and even if so, a WQ combo from Nasus costs less mana than all of the abilities Jax must use to win the trade
From my experience, after 200 stacks I can start to destroy Jax in duels no matter his items
Bunny Bells2 votesYou could look at it either way. Split pushing is a great strategy because it forces 1-2 enemies to break away from the main fight to come deal with you. If you, Jax, kill the two coming to get you, GG. If they send more that 2 people to deal with you, the rest of your team has a huge advantage.
IF DONE RIGHT!!!! Split-pushing is an incredible strategy.
In a coordinated team with a push mirroring each other on opposite ends of the lane, yes.
In solo que? You'll have a hard time getting people to cooperate becuase "F u noob. You don't get to tell me how to play."
It's a balancing act on when you can and can't.
Fritterz1 votesSolo Queue....
When I play Jax and try to split push I type in all caps
"DO NOT FIGHT, JUST APPLY PRESSURE IN MID LANE!!! PLEASE DO NOT FIGHT!!!"
Bunny Bells2 votesSolo Queue....
When I play Jax and try to split push I type in all caps
"DO NOT FIGHT, JUST APPLY PRESSURE IN MID LANE!!! PLEASE DO NOT FIGHT!!!"
It's Solo queue. . . .
What do you expect?
Spacesuit Spiff1 votesIf you trust your team to not flash engage a 4v5 on the enemy tank. Even people in diamond dont understand how to do headcounts
chipndip11 votesYou could look at it either way. Split pushing is a great strategy because it forces 1-2 enemies to break away from the main fight to come deal with you. If you, Jax, kill the two coming to get you, GG. If they send more than 2 people to deal with you, the rest of your team has a huge advantage.
IF DONE RIGHT!!!! Split-pushing is an incredible strategy.
It is...and it isn't. The problem with splitting is that usually the most fed guy feels obligated to do the splitting, and this allows the enemy to catch up by feasting on your weaker allies. One must understand where the team's power is allocated. If it's all front-loaded into just one guy or if a very important piece of the team's ability to team fight at all (even on defense) is the one trying to leave, splitting can easily lead to throws. I don't condone splitting unless there's a comfy advantage over the enemy already + the enemy hasn't started grouping up properly yet.
alfavhunter3 votesAnd then they send matzahar to deal with you
No QQS=GG
aítch2 votesJax has a team? Thought it was 1v5... hmmm
Zhire1 votesand then they be like "report jax for not helping team" this happens WAY too much to me.
Zoulzopan1 votesxin zhao can solo baron at the 20 min mark, with and come out FULL HP.
he can also solo tank the nexus towers, without any armor but not at the 20 min mark.
Try it in a bot game if you guys don't believe me.
WolfBV1 votesThe feeling when it's tryndamere vs tryndamere top and you manage a solo inhib at 15 minutes.
FlippyGoneTrippy1 votesOne of my most memorable Jax games was one of those drawn out 50 minute games. We were all pushing mid lane and got the inhibitor. I pinged my team to attack top lanes inhibitor and started thumping away at it with my lantern...
_QUADRA-KILL
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The now split up team, with all their ultimates down, set their sights on me as I started spinning my lantern and leaped over to my first attacker victim.
An enemy has been slain
Double Kill 
Triple Kill 
Quadra Kill!! 
With over 1/3 of my health still; I wasn't even bleeding. The killer of my team dashed in to duel me as I finally popped my ultimate and spun up my counter strike. She knew she was fucked.
PEEEEENTAAA-KILLL
I then thumped my lantern away at the enemy nexus.
"Imagine if I had a real weapon.."
Only Play Darius1 votesBruh, I know the feeling.
Halo1 votesLook, I solod baron at 20 min as an aatrox with Gunblade, Rageblade and Sated. Thats a bit better IMO
Celeste Benal1 votesMany champs can solo baron at 17 with that and sometimes less.
