My experience as a Support main

Daedric Etwahl·Apr 26, 2017·44 votes·2,747 views

http://i.imgur.com/HaET4PJ.jpg

I generally try to be a patient person and the moral support for my team, I aim to please, and sometimes this is probably what it looks like.

37 Comments

NarvuntienApr 26, 20174 votes

Ha man I know that feeling especially in ranked, really feels like I can't effect the result. I just try my best to stop the tilt. "Hey we are silver they can still throw guys, don't give up"

I had an Ezreal last night (in a normal!) that I swear was a being of pure rage. I don't know how people can live and be so angry all the time. I am learning to play Thresh and he is ranged so item 3302 doesn't excute and just because I'd miss the kill on the minions sometimes, it just tilted him off the planet (he still had more farm than his opponent). I took his advice and left the lane (obtaining kills elsewhere) but it was already too late for him, it is kind of hard to play with someone who hates you.

Ice runs through the viens of support mains.

DragonVSApr 26, 20172 votes

Fking Ezreals....I am a supp main and HATE supping for Ezreals....no fking damage even at the 15 min mark usually. Like a tear and a sheen MAYBE. Pisses me off that is Ezreals build 99% of the time. When the opposing Draven (or most any other adc) has an IE and other stuff and my Ez has shet. Your Ez lane buddy was probably mad at himself for sucking too bad with him.

OCCASIONALLY I will lane with an EZGOD and I get pleasantly surprised but for the most part its not a pretty picture.

Good luck...you hit a nerve with me on your Ezreal story.....AND I gotta say I am not a SUPPGOD I am just an experienced player who has decent map awareness but just average kill skills.

Amasa DelanoApr 26, 20172 votes

I mean, an Ezreal who does no dmg at 15 min because he built tear and sheen is fine with me. An Ezreal who does no dmg at 15 min and then flames me and says it's my fault is NOT okay.

Morgan le FeyApr 26, 20171 votes

tbf that's... kinda how Ez works? I mean, he should have reasonable damage with tear + sheen, but it'll never be as good as most ADCs in lane. He has to poke and juke or he's not really playing lane Ez well. Ezreal is more mid-late game AD caster than traditional AA/crit ADC. Really good at surviving, though. He almost never needs a peel support, and you should be able to roam really early with an Ezreal ADC.

FatedSaviourApr 27, 20171 votes

i just hate when they waste all their mana Q farming, like, even when they dont have tear or when they build item 3025

BlueBilberryApr 29, 20171 votes

{quoted} I had an Ezreal last night (in a normal!) that I swear was a being of pure rage. I don't know how people can live and be so angry all the time. I am learning to play and he is ranged so doesn't excute and just because I'd miss the kill on the minions sometimes, it just tilted him off the planet (he still had more farm than his opponent). I took his advice and left the lane (obtaining kills elsewhere) but it was already too late for him, it is kind of hard to play with someone who hates you.

Ice runs through the viens of support mains.

It kind of goes two ways. ADC right now is a frustrating role to play - and I can understand why I am seeing so many tilting ADCs at the moment. The role is no longer as clear as it used to be.

By way of illustration, is the ADC the best and main:

Turret taker? No that's more for the top lane and the odd midlane split pushers now. (Case in point: the rise of Ziggs "ADC")
Scaler with coin better than the others? Again no. Quite a few assassins and top laners do that better. A Yasuo or Tryndamere, for example, is off and running with 2 items - most of the ADCs need about one more item to get to that status (didn't use the word "level" here because the ADC is typically about 1-2 levels behind that same top laner at about the same time in the game).
Ranged damage dealer? Actually that's better done by most of the AP midlaners right now. Hard to compete with them.

Literally, the ADCs have become "jack of all trades, master of none" because Riot just doesn't know what to do with AD damage and the botlane role. It's really a mess. Truth be told they should be the ones used to push the turrets quickly and be the one's to best scale with items purchased - not the Tryndameres, Yasuos, Camilles, etc. That used to be the main job - but the desire to de-tank top lane has had a nasty trickle-over effect.

Plus, in solo queue, it also does not help that most of the ganking types have started looking at botlane as a 2-for-1 meal deal. If either one of the two botlane players on the other side is a bit weak, then it is like an open invitation for a free menu.

Is it any wonder that players don't want to play either support or ADC? Please Riot start making the roles a bit clearer.

NarvuntienApr 26, 20173 votes

Oh I have been doing plenty of that, I am actually very good at it.

The issue is when you and your random ADC have no synergy. For example I am a naturally safe player, I almost always plan some kind of escape or disengage from a fight, but about half my adcs... are agressive risk taking players. If I back off or don't go in at the right times I can severly tilt them... Or worse I hesitate, then join in thier madness getting us both killed instead of just letting them die (I have less issue letting people die when I am not support).

There is also jungle synergy or warding help that I stuffed up early last season that landed me in silver. I am quite the obessive warder but I kept getting caught warding, now I really need adc or jungle help to get some of the warding I need done safely. If they just don't get it then we are left without the wards.

The Mini MermaidApr 26, 20172 votes

I agree with you.

I am also a very safe player, I'll go in when the ADC "somewhat" engages or when jungle pings. But if they're willing to just go in as I'm about out of mana, I will stay back. I'll spam my buttons but the abilities will not perform and the ADC will probably cuss at me, which I won't care because it wasn't my fault. That's when the ADC is hella boosted asf and will probably keep dying because he's mad.

As for the jungle, I also do wish that the jungler and ADC help with warding. Sometimes, only half of the map (bottom side of the map) is only warded and top + everywhere else is just dark as hell. Tbh, kind of hate it when people ping for you to put down a ward but they have one too....

[zombie-brand-mindblown] Why?

Morgan le FeyApr 26, 20171 votes

As another cautious, traditionally-magey Support main, I've recently found that Rakan goes really well with overaggressive ADCs. He's almost as good as Janna at getting them out, and sometimes he can even turn the whole thing on its head if he hits his CC properly. Of course, he's also not as good at surviving as Janna, so that part's a bit rougher.

Jet SettApr 26, 20171 votes

I'm a more aggressive support, in fact I'm usually the one to call the shots before we all in them. There have been 3 moments so far (I've recently started to play a lot of support so I can't really say I main the position) where I ping my ADC an exact spot for them to position, they go there, and we all in them from that position.

Usually it's right in the open for a Blitz hook, but with a minion just a bit to the right so they can dodge it last second, or just a spot for the ADC to get "caught out" where we actually engage hard because it was actually a feint.

breakordoom444Apr 26, 20172 votes

are you talking about playing league with bronze fucks in ranked?

Daedric EtwahlApr 26, 20173 votes

Well considering that I am also one of those Bronze fucks, yes! :D

But I also mean even in normals where my team is arguing with each other. I can't help myself, I try to be there for everyone ;u;

breakordoom444Apr 26, 20172 votes

on a much more serious note that image really fits a support in reality, a support has so many things to do in lane or out (if i put ^ that means applies to some supports) lane: -peel -engage -heal^ -shield^ -ward -disengage -CC -KILL SECURE -gank -leash -help with drag

teamfight -engage it -peel your carry (mid jungle or adc) -disengage it -tank all the damage^ -tank baron^ -follow the carry to where he wants you -flame everyone on your team

Daedric EtwahlApr 26, 20172 votes

Thank god I at least don't have to CS too... ;u;

Masterofchaos999Apr 27, 20171 votes

item 3302 Now you have to fight your ad for cs in order to help them.

Daedric EtwahlApr 27, 20171 votes

The days of trying to play Thresh with that ;u;

The days of absolute torture for everyone involved

BlueBilberryApr 29, 20171 votes

{quoted}

Now you have to fight your ad for cs in order to help them.

And get flamed when you "steal" their farm to heal them. ;)

Morgan le FeyApr 26, 20174 votes

{quoted}

~~-flame everyone on your team~~ Pretend everything is great and be amazingly friendly when you just want to strangle everyone, rip off their heads, and throw them into the enemy fountain.

FTFY. :P

aLawfulFalafelApr 27, 20171 votes

i might be a bit picky on the information that sticks in my brain but this is what i remember from your post:

how to be a support player

-flame everyone on your team

i think i will become a support player now, is there anything else i should know?

FatedSaviourApr 27, 20171 votes

this happens in silver too lol

NarvuntienApr 26, 20172 votes

I recently learnt to play Ez after years of just thinking he was a terrible champion where all I did was run away really well and never do any damage. But in grinding to mastery 5 with him I finally get it. He has strong burst damage, you really have to time your engage well then just fire off a flurry of spells and autos then either get the kill or hop back out of the fight and try agian later.

It is important to learn adcs as well as supports actually, then you can understand the champion you are suppose to be supporting.

It is the Vayne players that, almost, tilt me with thier very existance. Unlike Ez and Lucian players they do actually need the heals and peels. At some point in the game they are sure to tumble into the middle of the enemy team trying to outplay 2 v 5 and you are expected to keep them alive in that madness. They all think they are Korean.

Pew Pew LasersApr 26, 20171 votes

I usually just give up and start trolling and somehow my berserk antics causes the game to turn around. Seems to work for me in other games too where shit goes so far south normal strategy doesn't work either.

Then again my name is very baity. A split pushing support with a name like mine draws a lot of attention. Too bad my team thinks I should stick with them... Which Im often forced to or they get completely wiped in a 4v4 without killing a single guy without me present.

Ad Astra per AspApr 26, 20171 votes

There needs to be an ADC screaming obscenities while on fire too but otherwise perfect.

Friendly RamApr 26, 20171 votes

best of luck landing decent adcs.

robotmasterApr 26, 20171 votes

I feel your pain. https://memesuper.com/download/22da2b5c8acf9302882098b4464f567100b8f021.html

Prophet of UrgodApr 26, 20171 votes

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Daedric EtwahlApr 27, 20171 votes

Favorite prince?

Support BoyyyApr 27, 20171 votes

I main support to but as much as I don't want to admit it, I'm usually more toxic than my ADC. I mean, how can you blame me for your death when you flashed into a Sona ultimate?

TriforceOfZeldaApr 27, 20171 votes

Well you guys would have no problem with supports if u play pure ap,ad or tanky support instead of going with those boring regular support items.

Daedric EtwahlApr 27, 20171 votes

I main Sona and I rarely ever actually go full AP (and I obviously don't go AD or Tanky [slayer-jinx-wink] )

It end to build stuff like item 3504 item 3174 item 3107 because gimme those bigass heals and shields, baby. I also grab item 3117 item 2301 and then usually just build whatever i want in the last slot.

TriforceOfZeldaMay 2, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Daedric Halberd,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=EjxBfZBc,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2017-04-27T15:12:13.544+0000)

I main and I rarely ever actually go full AP (and I obviously don't go AD or Tanky [slayer-jinx-wink] )

It end to build stuff like because gimme those bigass heals and shields, baby. I also grab and then usually just build whatever i want in the last slot.

Try ap sona mid in normals, you would love her damage from combo with q. She looks more of a mage than support to me though.

Daedric EtwahlMay 3, 20171 votes

I've tried it before. Occasionally I can do well with it but most of the time it doens't really work out very well. It doesn't help that Sona has basically zero waveclear

AgeOfTheMageApr 27, 20171 votes

That's way too true to be a meme.........

HeroineSamApr 27, 20171 votes

same

breakordoom444Apr 29, 20171 votes

i left for vacation for 3 days. when i left,this was a meme post. now:

I recently learnt to play Ez after years of just thinking he was a terrible champion where all I did was run away really well and never do any damage. But in grinding to mastery 5 with him I finally get it. He has strong burst damage, you really have to time your engage well then just fire off a flurry of spells and autos then either get the kill or hop back out of the fight and try agian later. It is important to learn adcs as well as supports actually, then you can understand the champion you are suppose to be supporting. It is the Vayne players that, almost, tilt me with thier very existance. Unlike Ez and Lucian players they do actually need the heals and peels. At some point in the game they are sure to tumble into the middle of the enemy team trying to outplay 2 v 5 and you are expected to keep them alive in that madness. They all think they are Korean.

I agree with you. I am also a very safe player, I'll go in when the ADC "somewhat" engages or when jungle pings. But if they're willing to just go in as I'm about out of mana, I will stay back. I'll spam my buttons but the abilities will not perform and the ADC will probably cuss at me, which I won't care because it wasn't my fault. That's when the ADC is hella boosted asf and will probably keep dying because he's mad. As for the jungle, I also do wish that the jungler and ADC help with warding. Sometimes, only half of the map (bottom side of the map) is only warded and top + everywhere else is just dark as hell. Tbh, kind of hate it when people ping for you to put down a ward but they have one too....

SUPPOSE TO BE A MEME POST NO??? (im not judging people posting these paragraphs but seriously, stop posting college essays here)

edit: those are not the same post, i just didnt bother to make 2 seperate quote box

Daedric EtwahlApr 29, 20171 votes

Ahaha, sorry, did I accidentally start discussions with my low-effort post? xD

BlueBilberryApr 29, 20171 votes

For me it's often more like:

Ok, you could have done that. And, this guy could have done that. And, oh, he could have done this. Time for me to place my ward. Ok, he could have done that. Why didn't he do this? Time to hit my heal button. He could have done that....

[zombie-brand-facepalm]