When Riot refuses to Nerf Champions

Mansana·Oct 8, 2015·51 votes·2,610 views

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All Day Tay TayOct 9, 20158 votes

guys YOUR BROKE you got nothin to bet with

CurlySue42Oct 9, 20155 votes

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guys YOUR BROKE you got nothin to bet with

One more roll!

RikoZerameOct 9, 2015

Save it for the High Priest, honey. You're gonna need it.

Da GronchOct 8, 20154 votes

Bard faint trumpet noises in the distance

Solari FortuneOct 9, 20152 votes

Riot: Hey Bard, Can we nerf the people everyone complains about? Bard Cosmic Noises Riot: Alright sheesh, we won't nerf them then! No need to be rude!

BeertasterOct 9, 20153 votes

I just ask for champs with toxic kits and play styles be reworked. They shouldn't be allowed to keep their "unique fantasies" if it makes the game hell for everyone else.

LuggOct 8, 20152 votes

I honestly laughed at the Riot response on why it's taking so long to balance the juggernauts and Fiora and Ahri and Yasou and ............

ModAcademy KaynOct 9, 20151 votes

What was their response, and a link to it?

LuggOct 9, 20151 votes

I can't find the links, it was a response in another thread. It basically said that they didn't want to be hasty on the juggernauts/Fiora and they had to make sure the champions were actually OP. The Ahri one was we don't think she is that strong, so we are going to take small steps.

EmbertineOct 9, 20151 votes

Link to response please. I would very much like to read it.

LuggOct 9, 20151 votes

Öi JosukeOct 9, 20153 votes

Ahri isnt strong, Well she is. Not OP strong tho. People just call her OP cause they try to chase her when her Burst Kite game on fleek.

LuggOct 9, 20153 votes

It's the same problem that you have with Ekko Fizz Leblanc LeeSin Nidalee Riven Zed .

You can outplay them but can't get the kill because they just run off and you have no way to catch them.

Öi JosukeOct 9, 20154 votes

WHOA WHOA WHOA. You cant outplay fizz.

Öi JosukeOct 9, 20151 votes

He will just jump any ult you have and be done with it

Troll for TrumpOct 9, 20151 votes

Vayne w/ ult 1v2 =rekterino. Pink wards help tho. BUY PINKS

LuggOct 9, 20151 votes

It's only a 1 second invis, pink just let's you see her kill you.

DengedenOct 9, 20151 votes

Ahri and Yas are your problem and your problem alone. If Fiora doesn't get nerfed next patch, I will adopt a certain champions's hunger for item 3111

LuggOct 9, 20151 votes

Ahri just needed a minor nerf, nothing major. Yas needs a complete rework. His kit is mega toxic.

DengedenOct 9, 20151 votes

Ahri already got nerfed multiple times, I don't know what you people have with her.

Yasuo ... I don't know, there are just so many things that make him absurdly weak:

his laning phase is usually decided at level 2
there's his over-all vulnerability to ganks
he can't do jack against tanks and bruisers unless he's fed
he's an escape-less melee champ with single target damage
most mages have at least one ability that goes through wind wall

He can make up for some of those weaknesses with items or if he pulls off a good teamfight, yes, but I don't know if that's a bad thing. I've honestly never played against a good Yasuo so I can't say.

LuggOct 9, 20153 votes

The last Ahri nerf was COMPLETELY insignificant. In fact all the nerfs she has had are pretty weak.

Yasuo's laning phase is no problem for him. You can completely dominate him early and he will still come back mid and late.

Can't do jack against tanks and bruiser? You have to be kidding. 50% armor pen let's him dominate tanks more than any champ in the game.

Single target damage? He has THREE abilities that do AoE.

Most mages DON'T have an ability to get thru it.

Like i have said, if you put Yas in a team comp with knockups, he will rape your team regardless of laning phase.

DengedenOct 9, 20152 votes

The last Ahri nerf was COMPLETELY insignificant. In fact all the nerfs she has had are pretty weak.

Right, as long as she can land charms and dash around a few times, no nerfs matter.

Yasuo's laning phase is no problem for him. You can completely dominate him early and he will still come back mid and late.

As can any champion.

Can't do jack against tanks and bruiser? You have to be kidding. 50% armor pen let's him dominate tanks more than any champ in the game.

It's additional armor
You really think Yasuo is gonna do anything for his team if he ults a tank?
His crits deals reduced damage and are going to be reduced even further with Randuin's omen. Thornmail and other armor items are the real nail in the coffin for him, if he isn't already reduced to a quivering mess by then... Not to mention his wind wall is completely useless against the aforementioned champion class, so ye, I stand by what I said

Single target damage? He has THREE abilities that do AoE.

His ult is situational, his 3rd Q is unreliable (especially if you wanna call it AoE) and do the normal Qs really hit multiple targets (oops)?

Most mages DON'T have an ability to get thru it.

I can think of Ori, TF, Liss, Annie (doesn't count bc support) and Kat (also doesn't count bc trash tier). The ones that matter have such low CD spells that it doesn't really matter.

Like i have said, if you put Yas in a team comp with knockups, he will rape your team regardless of laning phase.

~~Like he did in that BKT game?~~ That was before the community got Yasuo stomped into the ground. Now this will only be true if the enemy team's carries all get knocked up. Which would mean they deserve to drop (geddit?) about 20 divisions anyway.

LuggOct 10, 20151 votes

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Right, as long as she can land charms and dash around a few times, no nerfs matter.

Not sure what you are trying to say with this reply, but nerfs don't matter when the champ isn't actually nerfed.

As can any champion.

There are PLENTY of champs that are worthless when stomped in lane.

It's additional armor

You really think Yasuo is gonna do anything for his team if he ults a tank?

His crits deals reduced damage and are going to be reduced even further with Randuin's omen. Thornmail and other armor items are the real nail in the coffin for him, if he isn't already reduced to a quivering mess by then... Not to mention his wind wall is completely useless against the aforementioned champion class, so ye, I stand by what I said

Which is the majority of a tanks armor.
He won't ult if only the tank is knocked up.
IF they have Randuins. Thornmail is a complete joke now, can't believe you would even mention it.

Plus his Wind Wall IS effective against a lot of the tank champs since it blocks any projectiles including hooks.

His ult is situational, his 3rd Q is unreliable (especially if you wanna call it AoE) and do the normal Qs really hit multiple targets (oops)?

His 3rd Q is a guaranteed hit if he dashes to you and hits you point blank. Which is one of the easiest things to do in the game.

Each cast of Steel Tempest can be used during Sweeping Blade to change the area of effect to a circle around Yasuo. (I guess the oops was for you)

I can think of Ori, TF, Liss, Annie (doesn't count bc support) and Kat (also doesn't count bc trash tier). The ones that matter have such low CD spells that it doesn't really matter.

Tibbers is the only spell of those champions that isn't blocked. Ori can't pass her orb thru it since it's a projectile while moving.

~~Like he did in that BKT game?~~ That was before the community got Yasuo stomped into the ground. Now this will only be true if the enemy team's carries all get knocked up. Which would mean they deserve to drop (geddit?) about 20 divisions anyway.

Yas has yet to be stomped into the ground. He got sizeable nerfs but he has always been, and still is, a broken champ.

Deserved to drop? I guess every single pro in the game should be Bronze since they ALL get hit by it.

PROJECT KatarìnaOct 10, 20151 votes

Logged in to upvote, Lugg is b5 btw so yeah he probably doesn't emphasize a champs weaknesses. Ahri and Yasuo is fine and so is Fiora if she gets a lead or pops her passive a lot in lane.

TwoDOct 9, 20152 votes

They need more time to climb with their freelo, when they've realized its not working anymore then we can expect nerfs

RyzeReworkOct 9, 20152 votes

that moment when the juggernauts dont need balance changes just need people who a smart enough to counterpick them

Photos of GhostsOct 9, 20151 votes

If a champ is a problem for blind pick, the standard gamemode, it is a problem for the whole game. But Garen is for sure not problematic anymore.

darkmatchwaldoOct 9, 20151 votes

Who decided that blind pick was the standard game mode 0.o

Blue Moon WolfOct 9, 20152 votes

I'm keeping my hopes up for that Riven update, what they had on the PBE sounded like a step in the right direction, now it's just a matter of hoping that they don't decide to give her a compensation buff of some kind.