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Except it's not a buff at all. Well, it is but it's not. You'll be tankier late game overall which is great but it does nothing to help your first 2-3 clears. AD junglers will still clear faster than you and you'll still be irrelevant pre 6.
On a whole not really a buff.
Love riots fail logic that you can still get a frozen heart with tank jungle item and be effcient. As a whole, I am underwhelmed and sadly expect more nerfs to all other AD junglers (vi already is getting nerfed), except if your name is LEE.
Forcing people to move away from shield is a huge nerf. You will now take more damage from creeps. Also there multi hit limit on the E ability that makes it sub optimal. Riot if giving bad buffs that will not work. More failures from the balance team.
I was hoping for meaningful changes, when in the 5.1 GC said they want to bring other up to lee and j4s level. Riot continues to fail hard
Oh Goldblum. Oh Youuuuuuuu. :3
Except you whiner got Elise nerfed again in doing so, go french kiss a porcupine.
LOL I can't tell if half of these comments are serious or not. You guys might want to learn the game first. This jungle change is a big help to a lot of tank junglers.
INC AMUMU FREELO BABY.
It was wonderful when I first found out!
Then I remembered things I didn't want to remember - 
and many more maximum % hp damage abilities
Please just please get on PBE and play, then and only then can you really understand the pure joy tank junglers about experience, me being one of them already
Two things.
Cinder > Juggernaut. Which is a nice improvement for tank jglers.
I dont thing this addresses the lack of good early clear that tank jglers have.
Yeah,I'll believe it when a tank(jungler) sees competitive play without getting nerfed a patch after.
I mean you do realize that tank junglers are something different,meaning a meta shift...in LoL.
I'll believe that when I see it,till then it's just a bunch of nonsense with riot increasing the winrate of some champions then throwing BS about how competitive is different and they are better cause "muh winrate",meanwhile we all know how balanced lee is in solo q,even with his winrate(also I guess that makes ashe strong in solo q,totally believable).
I'm reading these changes and I'm really having a tough time here. Naut - W made weaker early, E made more spammable but weaker - this is a buff. Nida - human w damage increased, cougar w damage decreased slightly, cougar e ratios buffed - this is a nerf. ...I'm sorry, what? My brain hurts. What?