Since patch 3.15 came out...

yeah! when preseason came out, those targon gold items meant that the winning side support would basically make more gold than their jungler, which brought out so many possibilities regarding champion picks (ex.: "rise of the ap support") or even game strats (ex.: swapping jungle to bot and having a roaming support... that would make so much sense as the support is the warding powerhouse in the team). Since patch 3.15 came out... i feel like most changes were just... a bit cosmetic in the end. I play leona with that relic shield start... and idk in most situations i would be better off just with 2 green wards and 5 pots, especially playing against an ap poke support. So. Is there a midway between those 2 patches that can be reached by reworking those gold items? Just asking. Your impressions welcome.

I was talking about the viability of these champs as supports. Although Mundo is now considered a more than viable toplaner. And u are right Xerath and Ori are mid beasts. I only wish i had better moves w Ori, she is my best babe after Leona.

idk why but the godlike Yasuos who quadra under enemy turret are NEVER on my side. I get the feeder Yasuo jungle that goes 0/10/2 by endgame. I hate Yasuo with passion (imho the cd of his dash could easily be 3 seconds instead of 0.3 seconds). Although as far as i know Vi destroys Yasuo big time, i guess you are right in that he can change the meta. I should buy him next and learn to do those &%/$@ bs quadras.