When are we going to get a report button for what happens in champ select?

Vladimir Puddin·7/22/2014, 5:15:52 AM·20 votes·687 views

I want to be able to dodge when I need to, and to report someone when I need to dodge, I don't think I should be punished when someone else is a jerk. They went on to say they weren't kidding and if they didn't get their lane they were going to feed because they were tired of not getting what they wanted. Had the friend he was queued with say that he would feed too. item 3073

7 Comments

Someshta7/22/2014, 10:27:31 AM8 votes

This is 'Merica - free to speak, innocent until proven guilty.

'Tis a TwistedFate we all share. For even at our minds item 3091 , when fingers Twitch to summoner 11 , those we Brand as evil with a dark and item 3110 ; We wish with item 3086 to stand the Viktor , as we Rumble on the Gangplank ; to see them plunge to watery Graves , would summoner 7 our ailing item 1080item 1080.

Yet we must Ryze above the AsheAshe of our summoner 14d item 3151; summoner 1 our minds of those dark thoughts and {{summoner:17}} our hearts. For in that summoner 4 of summoner 13 a moment of {{summoner:2}} : never are our cries in Vayne and never could you Jinx it.

Though speech be free and guilt be stayed, you can't just be a Zac of Poppy. For those who'd curse with their item 3035 will meet this thing called Karma. And once they've had a taste of her, you know they'll stuff a Corki in it.

If not I've got this item 1058 , and there's one more place for stuffing...

MrBuffington7/22/2014, 9:27:05 PM2 votes

Sometimes I get cussed out for saying hi to people in pre-game chat. Sometimes I just sit through that game so I can report them at the end. I don't think the Tribunal sees pregame chat, though, unfortunately.

Lneacx7/22/2014, 10:46:39 AM1 votes

Send it to Riot Support.

I believe they're taking these cases for now.

Kao Atlantis7/22/2014, 11:07:24 AM1 votes

RiotLyte talked about this specifically in two posts. It appears the problem is more than just reporting in post and pre-game lobbies and that they are always working to improve the reporting system.

Post One: (By RiotLyte)

I emphasized the part of your post that is important. When we investigated pre- and post-game chat, the question we asked was: "What is the incremental value we would get by adding this feature? Would we identify more toxic players, and if so, how many more?" It turns out that many players who are toxic in pre- and post-game chat are also toxic in-game, and tend to be caught by the Tribunal. However, Riot does have access to the logs--they just aren't hooked up to the Tribunal system. Given the choice, should the player behavior team work on Champ Select issues, or work on pre- and post-game chat? The answer is pretty clear.

In saying this, as you might have heard from other player behavior members, we have been shifting away from feature development on punishment systems. Like I mentioned in the GDC talk linked earlier in this thread, we're focusing much of our development on making the game more enjoyable for neutral and sportsmanlike players instead of focusing on the toxic players.

Post Two: (By RiotLyte)

Oh, it's not anything special due to data. We just internally view them as different problem sets.

For example, adding reports and pre- and post-game chat logs to the Tribunal is a solution to a problem--the problem might be defined as a lack of accountability for extreme toxic behaviors in Champ Select (since the solution would only identify the worst of the worst offenders for the Tribunal).

Champion Select; however, is a problem space without a solution... yet. The problems include:

  1. Time pressure creates a hostile environment
  2. Putting strangers together in a lobby and forcing them to negotiate strategy is hindered by a lack of trust (in other words, everyone only has data on themselves, and truly believe they are better than everyone else in the lobby -- a reasonable behavior pattern given the lack of data on everyone else)
  3. A mismatch of expectations going into the environment

If you look at the problems in Champion Select, it's very obvious that pre- and post-game logs in the Tribunal does not address them.

As others have recommended, I would also suggest sending a ticket to Riot Support if you encounter people being toxic in the post- or pre-game lobbies and don't think it will be caught through the regular reporting. You can do that here.

MissFortune

Stacona7/23/2014, 12:55:22 AM1 votes

Feed or AFK pref!

ButtersBBG7/23/2014, 1:05:12 AM1 votes

Buff Ashe , or feed ;3