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A Lissandra thought

Giráfárig·6/6/2014, 1:59:45 AM·5 votes·1,307 views

I know people are quite rowdy when it comes to "She's so useless, her range is pathetic" (etc etc) I however know she has great potential for her team especially as a kiter. People are demanding changes to her and I just thought of a couple that could increase her kiting capabilities and perhaps bring a new utility no other mid laner could offer.

Q-Ice Shard: After it splits maybe you could make the shards also slow down the units hit by the shrapnel, but to a less severe degree (IE a target that gets hit by the pre shattered ice shard is slowed 16% while the units behind said target are only slowed 8 %)This would also benefit her passive for more clutch no mana ults.

W-Ring of frost: I have very little suggestions for this ability as I know it is meant for self-peeling or for when you all in with glacial path. A small buff could be to increase its range by 100 to make for easier harass on your enemies, and not forced to sit back spamming ice shots and aa's at your distant lane opponent.

E- Glacial path: This is a fantastic gap closer that requires a little patience to use effectively. While it is quite simple to sneak up on a standard opponent with this ability i can not count the amount of times that I have used this and my opponent has already ran out of the distance of any of my abilities and I'm left standing there spamming laugh to make myself feel better. My suggestion would be to maybe add a 50% aoe slow that decays rapidly to the area lissandra ends up on with her ability just to give you a little time for some great opportunities.

R- Frozen Tomb: I have absolutely no problems with her ultimate, the only suggestion i might have is for you to maybe be able to cancel the stasis early when you use the ultimate on yourself, perhaps use it on yourself to only dodge a clutch ahri charm and be able to peace out effectively.

These are just my sleep deprived thoughts on the Ice witch, what do you guys think?

18 Comments

CaptainWednesday6/6/2014, 2:13:07 AM4 votes

Seems like a lot of buffs that she does need. The only thing I like is the Q slow. I have always wanted this to be the way the Ice Shard worked. The W is not meant to be used as harass, so adding more range is not a good idea. The E does not need a slow! 3 out of 4 abilities already CC. The only I think it needs to be able to cast it while moving without the brief stop. Anyway, that's just my two-cents.

Dax Ayrton6/6/2014, 4:32:54 AM2 votes

I love Lissandra

I agree about slowing enemies getting hit by the Q's splash. This would not only improve her kiting capabilities, it would render her otherwise useless passive more useful.

The W and E changes you proposed are not really necessary.

Two things that would be interesting to see on Lissandra is making her E deal a little bit of damage the instant she and the claw switches places, and only in a small area where she lands. Also, I like for the invulnerability she gains when she ults herself to be cancellable.

Dvolt6/6/2014, 8:37:43 AM1 votes

Well, not being the greatest player, I feel it's only fair to say that Lissandra is fairly strong from my experience against her.

Q is alright, but it's one of the few skill shots with such range that you can't avoid by being behind minions. The Aoe on it is fairly generous, so I really don't think she needs the additional slow.

For all I like the idea of getting more Teemo's snared, 100 range would give her some crazy wave clear with her passive.

...Path is really, really fine. It's awesome mobility that she can activate at almost any time to go in crazy places. giving it a slow feels a bit too much, ya know? I'd argue that running away from Lissandra's path is kinda what they're supposed to do to avoid it.

Being able to cancel the ability early takes away from the importance of her ult. When you decide to use an Hourglass, you are making a very important decision. "Do I avoid this damage nuke, or continue to deal damage?" When Lissandra uses her ultimate, she has the same decision to make. She pulls herself away from causing an action on the battlefield (Besides the damage and slow), allowing the enemy team to focus the rest of her allies.

Worgslarg6/6/2014, 1:16:49 PM1 votes

She feels in a good place damage wise to me. however, her q needs to slow all champions hit.

I feel like if anything else were to change, her e should deal less damage, and travel faster( or not have a casting time so you can cast while running)

Goldenelk5986/6/2014, 2:28:51 PM1 votes

Just a few thoughts on one of my favorite mages in league. Her Q...I like the idea of the second proc slowing. I always thought it should do that. Also the range. That is something that has kinda frustrated me with her. I know she is a very all in champion, but that Q range just feels so terrible when laning. Maybe a slight boost in the range could give her a little up lift against some of the better poke champs mid like ziggs and revamp her mid play. Her W I am okay with most of this ability, although I know riot is testing a possible shield concept which I am actually pretty excited about. The whole reason for lissandra is to go all in isolate a target for the team or you to burst, survive with a zhonyas and E away before dieing...but against a proper team that has substantial cc there may not be a chance to pop zhonyas before hand and liss is extermely squishy if built heavier on ap. I believe a shield on her w would give her a better chance of surviving if she goes all in. I mean kass has a shield and is not even close to as all in as liss since he can ult out a lot faster then her E comes up. As for her E I really dont have any issues. And her ult seems to be fine, although still has the annoying issues of ulting an enemy late if they have an escape.

HazeyInDaHead6/6/2014, 3:34:46 PM1 votes

I like increasing the claw speed myself. The slow is neat but I feel with all the other changes its too much

ILoveTiramisu6/11/2014, 6:49:25 PM1 votes

I like lissandra and I like playing her on toplane and build her a bit tanky. She has a good kiting, peeling and engage. Poke, mobility in lane, and she is a ganker. I carry 50% of game in this meta with her. A big problem is just jarvan 4, he is best counter of lissandra in toplane.