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The ONE Lee Sin change I would like above all others

Shattered Clock·3/19/2014, 6:19:20 AM·8 votes·260 views

There are many things about Lee Sin that frustrate both myself and the community at large. Whatever these things are feel free to discuss them, but after reviewing the proposed Lee Sin changes to "tone down," his early game, there was one thing that was never touched on.

His stupidly high base MS.

Even with his nigh infinite mobility with Q+W and his amazing slow on E (giving him very good sticking+catching/disengage potential), Lee Sin is tied for the 2nd highest base MS in the game (with Pantheon ) at 350. I feel this number could be reasonably lowered to 335 or even 330 without hitting any of the things that make skilled Lee Sin players good at their favorite champion.

If it were up to me I'd drop him to 300 even due to my incredible disdain for the champion, but that would never fly.

While there are other areas of Lee Sin that I would also like to see changed (his E), his base MS is definitely a strength I think he can live without.

For context, Lee Sin runs as fast as most champions with tier 1 boots when he has no boots.

3 Comments

Akh Morn3/19/2014, 2:27:01 PM1 votes

This is a great idea. 330 is a bit low, maybe consider 335-340. This will allowthem to keep some more power in his actually abilities. Also, with the new ridiculous attack speed steroid from his passive, maybe slightly nerf his base attack speed.

Borand3/19/2014, 9:43:55 PM1 votes

Well said I think, even though I don't play Lee Sin LeeSin and I can't tell how it will truly affect him.

Tbh, I think you should post this in the mega-thread to raise the odds of Riot seeing it. They don't like searching the entire forums for ideas when they are openly trying to keep them in one thread.

Remlap12233/19/2014, 10:39:13 PM1 votes

Lee Sin is all mobility. That is what makes the badass known as Lee Sin, Lee Sin. The ability to skill shot nuke you from a huge distance, and then Sparty Kick you in the face to close the gap is what made Lee Sin fun. Due to the heavy value of crowd control, we need more champions that are avid chasers. Udyr Hecarim Olaf Gangplank MasterYi these guys in particular are the big scary movement speed champions. However, despite being able to chase you across the map against, you can still counter them via crowd control, baiting, or focusing them in a fight. I personally enjoy playing each and every one of these champions because of how fast they are (not Yi so much, due to his nooblord status.) I'd hate to see that aspect of Lee Sin go away.