Actual good Opinions on Nidalee "balancing"

KrawMagraw·Apr 26, 2014·2 votes·610 views

Ok obviously nidalee presents a different problem to different players, but mainly the focus is always her javelin, its "shocking" dmg. Since I've been playing league(about 9 months now) this continuing circle-jerk which is the "how-to" balance nidalee has been going on.

I've played nid quite a bit and have to say that ya, her spears do shittons of dmg, but the pursueing argument of its too much f***ing dmg is bs imo. If you're gonna bitch about her dmg then have an actual option on how to compensate for it because.

A. She has no true ultimate.

B. Doesn't have access to her Cougar form till 6, which is still a good sized window to play against her.

C. Aside from spears, has mediocre dmg late game in her cat form, albeit its a good ammount mid game.

All I want to hear is a solution that isn't complete F***k this champ shes op, gut her kit now.

Ensue on your circle jerk argument now my fellow nid haters, and proponents.

6 Comments

Janna plsApr 26, 20142 votes

nidalee is fine.

the Anarchit3chtApr 26, 20141 votes

What do you mean? Nidalees Cougar form is extremely powerful. And how is it not a true ultimate? It changes her form and gives her a entire new set of abilities. It differs from Jayce in that the focus on his ultimate is to switch between melee and ranged--usually using the melee to position yourself for the ranged or the range to attack from a safe distance. Nidalees cougar form is capable of dealing a good amount of damage, but more than that, it provides her with insane mobility that she uses to position her spears, dodge enemy skill shots, or make an escape. If she got it at level 1, then dodging spears would be just that much harder as her pounce is a on a pretty low cool down and when not building AD/Tank Nidalee, her spears are easily capable of killing you in two shots.

The drawback of course, is that you see it a long ways coming and can easily side step it. With her cougar form, if she had it at level 1, she could pounce around to get optimal position before chucking a spear and then she could pounce away afterwards to prevent any sort of retaliation. When she does get cougar form, it balances out because by then the enemies will have more resistances built up to her. Other than an insane amount of damage, her spear honestly isn't that 'OP'. It's easy to dodge, and can be body blocked. If it really troubles you that much, stay behind the minions. Just think about it for a second, the wall of minions that you use to body block her nukes would become essentially ineffective if she could just pounce around to the side and nail you anyway.

If you want to talk about a champion without a true ultimate, I suggest looking at Udyr or Karma or even Jayce . Jayce's ultimate is less than an ultimate the Nida's because all it does it literally change his attack type and provide a small bonus on the first hit. Nida's ultimate provides her with stat differences as well as the fact that it levels up the Cougar form skills everytime you level it up--a difference from Jayce where the QWE level in both forms just by choosing the reciprocating skill in the other form.

KrawMagrawApr 27, 20141 votes

The simple saying "has not true ultimate" means the champion doesn't have a singular powerful, skill on a higher cd.

Examples: Elise Nidalee Jayce Udyr Karma

Also I'm sorry. I posted this after i get ticked off by a YT vid that was putting all this hate on nid, and by all reasons ya I think nid is just fine, simply was trying to say that the only arguements i've heard for nid being op involve her spear dmg, and rather not her entirety of her kit.

the Anarchit3chtApr 27, 20141 votes

Sorry? But why? You don't have to be sorry for raising a discussion about something. It's a pretty valid one at that. If anything, I think I will apologize--I believe I misread the intent of this thread as a "WAH NIDS OP NERF NOW" and not a "Why does everyone think Nid is OP" type of thread.

KrawMagrawApr 28, 20141 votes

Its all good. My main intent is I want the people that bitch about nid, (Regarless of whether shes "op" or not "op") give an actual, valid solution/reasoning of why she is problematic, rather than "spear too much dmg, GG".

The video I watched had a good reason of why she is problematic, being that she doesn't have to assess risk vs. reward. That she can simply be completely safe, and not be in harms way to hit spears through her mobility and range, which I find as a completely valid point. What pissed me off about the video is the guy who created it blamed that problem on the spear dmg, because her spear is just a basic abilitie it shouldn't be able to do that much dmg, which is why in here I said she has no "true ultimate".