Because hey i get 4 randoms. I doubt luck has anything to do with solo duo rank. Unless you have acheived the diamond master challenger status and when the "soft reset" happens you are pretty much playing with the same player base. So how is that competative. Hogwash as usual or you can be faker and get 4 shitbags and carry them every game right? cuz that happens. lmao wat a bullshit suckout of a system.
LankPants4 votesThe luck factor just isn't a thing over long stretches and large samples of games and simple logic tells us that. If there's 1 bad player in the game there's a 4/9 chance that he'll be on your team and a 5/9 chance he'll be on the other team, he can't take your slot. The bad player is 10% more likely to be on the other team than yours.
In single games this doesn't stand up, but if you play 100 games and assume there's a single bad player and that's the sole determiner of win rate you'd expect to win somewhere between 50 and 60% of all games.
The simple fact is that if you're better than the people around you the bad player drops on the enemy team more often than yours.
Of course if you are the bad player in several games this advantage starts to go away. If you play consistently above average it's easy to maintain a good winrate, it's inconsistency that starts to hamper this.
Orangesilk2 votesBut it gets tedious, over a long enough sample it evens out, yeah, but in the meanwhile you get the awful feeling of being stuck, of advancing slowly. Specially when compared to players who both are good and get lucky and run through those games in a weekend.
Stick In Mudd3 votesIt's all about drudging past the crap games.
If you have a 55% winrate, you will reach Diamond, eventually. But that means 45% of your games, you will lose, and some of those games will be with really bad teammates that cause you to lose. You just have to grind past those games, it's all a part of the process of climbing. Everybody loses games.
dominusx6 votesi had 69% winrate in d3 never reached masters. XDD. theres no procces of climbing after you reach a certain point where you dont absolutely dumbster people its all about luck. Diamond matchmaking is luck. Did i get the tilted duchebag top? yes? he will feed and we will prolly lose. Did my botlane get autofilled and the enemy has mains on both roles? we lose. Did my midlane decide to break the meta with ap WW mid? we lose etc etc. The game is 50% luck 20% skill 30% attitude. and by attitude i mean to not get tilted over bad games it doesnt matter if you are positive negative or w/e as long as you dont get pissed off.
Hethalean1 votesDoes the 'Free Win' next series when you fail a series not happen after you get to diamond? I don't know. I've only been in Silver.
dominusx2 votesnever had that happen to me so i dunno. i've only had this playing on a silver acc where the dude had lost 2 promos so i got 2 free wins in the promo and only needed one win for the next division instead of 3. In diamond you dont really skip divisions without really high mmr/winrates most people who skip divs in diamond are those of 65% winrates. i personally didnt skip because the account wasnt fresh it was a casual low diamond mmr acc.
Hethalean1 votesI've never skipped a division. Very limited experience in rank. Last season was my first ranked season, and placed Silver 2. Almost got to gold. Lost 10 games in a row over a week, and finished the season in S3 lol.... I should probably finish my placements this season and see what Bronze is like. :)
Mysticman894 votesFree wins next time in series are only a thing up to gold.
hunterspec2 votesi had 69% winrate in d3 never reached masters. XDD. theres no procces of climbing after you reach a certain point where you dont absolutely dumbster people its all about luck. Diamond matchmaking is luck. Did i get the tilted duchebag top? yes? he will feed and we will prolly lose. Did my botlane get autofilled and the enemy has mains on both roles? we lose. Did my midlane decide to break the meta with ap WW mid? we lose etc etc. The game is 50% luck 20% skill 30% attitude. and by attitude i mean to not get tilted over bad games it doesnt matter if you are positive negative or w/e as long as you dont get pissed off.
ap ww mid? that is your fault for not dodging
dominusx1 votesat the time i was losing 11 lp and i was on tier 2 dodge penalty so yeh was too bored to dodge and my premade was like come on i got Rengar ( he was banned like 3-4 last games ) and he wanted to play it out xD.
nice table1 votesif you dodge games where people threaten to troll you are a part of the problem.
hunterspec4 votes[{quoted}](name=nice table,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zwwAnYJ1,comment-id=0000000000010001,timestamp=2017-01-31T15:07:09.682+0000)
if you dodge games where people threaten to troll you are a part of the problem.
nice troll post, I thought you were serious for almost half a second.
nice table2 votesif you dodge these games the players never get punished and get exactly what they want, so yeah you are a part of the problem if you do it.
hunterspec3 votes[{quoted}](name=nice table,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zwwAnYJ1,comment-id=000000000001000100000000,timestamp=2017-01-31T15:55:31.139+0000)
if you dodge these games the players never get punished and get exactly what they want, so yeah you are a part of the problem if you do it.
so you want me to lose my game and lp and my promos. again, nice troll post
nice table1 voteslp really doesn't matter on any level so ya know why not
hunterspec1 votes[{quoted}](name=nice table,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zwwAnYJ1,comment-id=00000000000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-31T15:58:54.157+0000)
lp really doesn't matter on any level so ya know why not
that was a L. not I. lI you can tell the difference.
nice table1 votescant tell if joking or actually implying league points matter
Surr20plz2 votes[{quoted}](name=nice table,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zwwAnYJ1,comment-id=00000000000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-31T15:58:54.157+0000)
lp really doesn't matter on any level so ya know why not
Yeah, but MMR does matter and you can keep your MMR if you dodge.
just stfu.
nice table1 votesmmr doesn't matter either love. league is a competition about who's more skilled not about who can suck off more trolls to reach a higher rating.
Surr20plz1 votes[{quoted}](name=nice table,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zwwAnYJ1,comment-id=0000000000010001000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-02-01T12:21:16.654+0000)
mmr doesn't matter either love. league is a competition about who's more skilled not about who can suck off more trolls to reach a higher rating.
To be in a competition you need to have a ranking system. That shows whose winning and losing.
You're either trolling or you can't comprehend basic concepts in your country.
nice table1 votesreading this i said to my self "this guy must be bronze", i was not disappointed.
Surr20plz1 votes[{quoted}](name=nice table,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zwwAnYJ1,comment-id=000000000001000100000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-02T00:32:28.631+0000)
reading this i said to my self "this guy must be bronze", i was not disappointed.
Stay in school.
a special one1 votesyeah. i guess you are equally skilled as gosu qtpie and faker
dominusx1 votesIm a better toplaner than both of them and they are better at their respective roles. And thats it.their role allows em to climb faster and they do so. Also i recently reached high diamond lvl gameplay on my own roles meanwhile they have been there for years because its their job. If i bother becoming a teamplayer and stop beeing a lone wolf duche id be able to put up a good gsme against both
a special one1 votesyou are on eune... that doesnt even count
dominusx1 votesi'm not only on eune my highest rank has been d3 on euw which was my peak even tho i have a higher ranked acc on eune i respect euw high elo a bit more thus why i consider that my peak. now since you are one of those server elitists no point speaking to you.
a special one1 votesah i did lose my promos to d3 yesterday cause my brother restarted the Internet while i was in champ select, feel my tilt
dominusx1 votestry losing 3 promos to d1 because you get challenger players trolling.
Troll for Trump1 votesBasically, burn your life by playing 4-5 games a day or stay in low rank while people think that's a good indication of skills.
Elo hell is elo hell. Basically everyone can get to a high rank, they just can't trudge through elo hell via spam playing games
Unlucky473 votesOh boi let me tell you something about luck vs. skill. Last week or so I lost a large majority of games that I won my lane in, roamed, invaded, and did all sorts of shit. My match history was literally Corki mid with 20 something/less than 10/around 10 every single game. And almost every single one I had that damned red bar next to it. I was so tilted. I consistently, without fail, could go into a match and expect one of my teammates to almost single handedly fuck up an entire game. I had a kled that went in on fiora every time he got into lane, a varus thresh that did the same thing to the enemy vayne, and a jungler in one of my games that didn't seem to understand that there are two sides in the jungle and he probably shouldn't be in the one that has the enemy jungler and his team to back him up.
Basically skill doesn't mean shit in this meta because some bullshit hard carry champion will get 10 kills before 3 minutes and the next thing you know there's a 21/2 fiora in mid lane two shotting you all because kled couldn't sit behind his minion wave.
Rants over still tilted though.
Tyrone Lannister1 votesCompetitive.
MLDzXnRRR1 votesYou don't wanna to play competitive. In competitive 1v1 games there is not team to blame for your own mistakes and people ragequit even more often...
Meep Man1 votesIn almost every single part of life, I would rather be the God of Luck than the best at anything.
Snowman Arc1 votesLuck factor is always there and is always important. I'd rather do shit in all my games, but get 4 other teammates that are overperforming, than being me who overperforms and having 4 shit teammates.
Now, the luck factor seems more oppressive when you have played few games. Like, you only played 100 games and you only managed to get from silver 5 to silver 2, because you had trolls in your team and only got, I don't know, 58% winrate. As you keep on playing more games, you will see that luck isn't much of a factor, as eventually the enemies will have more trolls than your team (9 other players to fill, 5 of them are enemies, 4 of them are yours, chances are, enemies get the troll more often than you).
This means that eventually, it's all a grind, since eventually, after A LOT of games, it gets to even out more. The more you play, the more it evens out, so if you're consistent with your play, you will eventually climb.
Thevoidwalker3361 votes[{quoted}](name=Snowman Arc,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zwwAnYJ1,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-01-31T15:21:21.936+0000)
Luck factor is always there and is always important. I'd rather do shit in all my games, but get 4 other teammates that are overperforming, than being me who overperforms and having 4 shit teammates.
Now, the luck factor seems more oppressive when you have played few games. Like, you only played 100 games and you only managed to get from silver 5 to silver 2, because you had trolls in your team and only got, I don't know, 58% winrate. As you keep on playing more games, you will see that luck isn't much of a factor, as eventually the enemies will have more trolls than your team (9 other players to fill, 5 of them are enemies, 4 of them are yours, chances are, enemies get the troll more often than you).
This means that eventually, it's all a grind, since eventually, after A LOT of games, it gets to even out more. The more you play, the more it evens out, so if you're consistent with your play, you will eventually climb.
No no u wont iv tried........the way this mmr lp thing is you can go on a 3 game winning streak getting 20lp each for a total of 60, 4th game starts the 3 game losing streak and guess what you lose 20 cuz the game thinks that becuz u cant carry 3 other inting ppl you should lose all the progress you just made from winning 3 games......sigh
about 3 yrs ago when I played this non stop I had about 2k or 2.5k games in one season I ended at 50.8% I think finished silver 3......................I was stuck at s2 could not for the life of me get 2 games of ppl to get past the promos. That was before the if u fail u get a free win tho so its not as bad now I got to s1 promos then lost but still.
so this if you have 50% bs you climb is flawed to the extreme and doesn't make any sense with my exp with the lp system
Snowman Arc1 votesIf you played 2500 games and hardstuck in silver 2, maybe that's where you belong.
Skorpio1 votesYour luck is someone else's skill.
Ahristocats1 votesBecause hey i get 4 randoms. I doubt luck has anything to do with solo duo rank.
that doesn't make sens.
chipndip11 votesTranslation: Why the fuck does Gbay99 get to be Diamond of all people?
