zed and yasuo are actually balanced because of their skill caps so yall need to stop crying...

OneSlickPhony·7/29/2015, 3:02:23 AM·9 votes·1,027 views

just because you feed them 10 kills at five minutes doesnt mean theyre op it actually means that you are probably bronze and cant even play an easy faceroll champion like lissandra.....

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Bârd7/29/2015, 3:05:19 AM4 votes

Yasuo, by himself, is a high skillcap fighter/assasin, who while irritating to play against, is well balanced.

However, combo him with Alistar and as long as he has an R key...

Calabok7/29/2015, 4:37:26 AM2 votes

nerf Zed

Haunt7/29/2015, 3:23:28 AM2 votes

Couldn't agree more. If you lose to Zed you got outplayed.

Owlythe7/29/2015, 6:03:15 AM2 votes

The idea that high skill cap = Balanced is probably the stupidest argument I've ever seen. Look at Riven. She's got one of the highest skill caps there are; and I can't even tell you the amount of threads/complaints from people of all elo's saying how much of a sack of crap she is to deal with. Overpowered = Overpowered. So long as the player is remotely competent with a champ like that, you're going to have a bad time.

However, I don't get me wrong. I have absolutely no problem with Zed, due to the fact that he, while being bursty and mobile as hell, has a huge amount of counter play to him(ontop of some champs having abilities to counter his ult, there are literally 2 items that counter it, that most people who he's likely to ult can most likely build. Yasuo however, while I do find annoying, I wouldn't say is "unbalanced" -- more just overloaded. Cetainly not overpowered. However saying that, in general, having a high skill cap makes a champion automatically incapable of being "overpowered" is dumb.

OneSlickPhony8/6/2015, 5:16:20 AM1 votes

bump xd

Zenthon Prime7/29/2015, 4:11:25 AM1 votes

Three points:

  1. Although both Yasuo and Zed have high skillcaps, Zed has a mildly low skill floor
  2. The real issue with Zed/Yas is not how strong they are, but how annoying to lane against they are (especially Yasuo)
  3. Prior to the ult nerf Zed was pretty faceroll, and Yas has had similar periods, so there's still leftover hate from those days
Sakura Mirage7/29/2015, 3:06:06 AM1 votes

Agreed but zed is underpowered at least yasuo is balanced

OperationDEEZ17/29/2015, 5:55:40 AM1 votes

Yasuo, yes Zed, no.

MLDzXnRRR8/6/2015, 5:28:45 AM1 votes

The only hard thing about Yasuo is surviving with him - his hp bar is a joke, imagine if he had the stats of Trynda... he will be broken. Actually full AD J4 outbursts all the assasins while being tankier than them, it's a real joke.

DarthSpectrum7/29/2015, 6:42:35 AM1 votes

Zed is actually fairly balanced now. He has the slowest assassination combo to trade for his safety. Other assassins such as Talon can literally kill Zed before Zed pulls out a full combo on Talon. Heck, even CC mages such as Annie, Cassiopeia, or Ahri can annihilate Zed now due to the 1 second ultimate return delay, giving them a point blank opportunity to stun.

Rather than being a go to pick, people actually play Zed now for his strengths. He has spammable poke and an oppressive ultimate early, but later on, he gets outclassed or countered by many champions.

Yasuo on the other hand is in fact tremendously under-powered by himself. Many mid lane champions won't even give Yasuo a chance to charge up 3 Q's late game. A full combo from Viktor, Annie, Fizz, etc. and he is done. Yasuo is essentially an ADC at melee range with ~30% more damage.

However, pair him with Malphite, Alistar, or Zac and you get an obscurely broken team fighting machine. Yasuo is tremendously weak against most mages, assassins, and bruisers. However, given the chance, he can and will hit them with an AOE nuke and kill them before they can retaliate.

As a general tip with fighting Yasuo, I see many players make the mistake of standing in their minion wave. The tutorial recommends it to avoid skill shots, but it is detrimental to do so against Yasuo. Albeit most Mages can kill Yauso in one combo, standing close to minions give him a chance to kill you as well. If you by any chance miss your abilities, it is a free kill for him.

kneel on Ice7/29/2015, 1:47:09 PM1 votes

easy faceroll champion like lissandra

you kidding right ? wood 10 spotted

IcyPepper7/29/2015, 3:06:13 AM1 votes

You know, honestly I haven't seen many threads complaining about those two. Maybe I'm wrong, though. I think more people are complaining about people complaining about those two than people actually complaining about those two.

Popstar Ahri7/29/2015, 3:06:46 AM1 votes

buff zed