Can you demote from splash LP loss
If I am 0 LP on my main role JG and play support and lose will the -3 lp that gets splashed demote me in jungle rank
would like to know
[sg-miss-fortune]
If I am 0 LP on my main role JG and play support and lose will the -3 lp that gets splashed demote me in jungle rank
would like to know
[sg-miss-fortune]
yes you can, i asked this for someone in another thread while in riot support. ive got chatlogs too if you'd like to see
Dang i had a the same question. Thank you
ya if I could please
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ya if I could please
for privacy sake, im going to replace the rioters name with "x". here's what was said in the live chat (the question you asked is towards the end):
Chat started: 2019-01-28 01:48 AM UTC
(01:48:53 AM) FOR JUSTICE: i was wondering, if i choose to main fill, would i on average climb faster then if i simply choose 1 role? also, if i main fill, but swap a few more times then im allowed from the position im assigned, do i still face the same penalization as everyone else for matchmaking?
(01:49:37 AM) *** x joined the chat ***
(01:49:45 AM) x: hey there
(01:49:46 AM) x: hows it going
(01:49:50 AM) FOR JUSTICE: fine (01:50:02 AM) FOR JUSTICE: just debating whether i should play ranked rn (01:50:04 AM) FOR JUSTICE: lol
(01:50:26 AM) x: lol that's a debate i think we all have around this time of year
(01:52:19 AM) x: so to the best of my knowledge, primarily queueing up as fill shouldn't give an advantage over having a primary role. you'll still be more likely to see support or jungle (the most common fill spots IMO) more than the other three, so it's likely that you'd still end up having higher positional rankings in those roles. i don't know your skill level in each position personally, so that's assuming you're equally proficient in each role
(01:52:54 AM) x: as far as swapping goes, queueing as fill doesn't give you more leniency for switching either since you're being assigned a role based on what's needed, so switching out of that isn't really any different than queuing up for that role and then trading pre-game
(01:53:06 AM) FOR JUSTICE: ah (01:53:14 AM) FOR JUSTICE: ok that makes sense (01:53:21 AM) FOR JUSTICE: also how many promos are there now? (01:53:44 AM) FOR JUSTICE: do i still need to go through one for each tier? (01:53:56 AM) FOR JUSTICE: like say silver 4 -> silver 3?
(01:55:01 AM) x: yep, so for going between divisions like silver 4 to silver 3, you'd still have the same 3 game series and from Iron 4 all the way up to getting into Gold 1, you'll be eligible for promo helper if you don't successfully promote
(01:55:13 AM) FOR JUSTICE: ah
(01:55:13 AM) x: going between tiers, like silver 1 to gold 4 is still a 5 game series
(01:55:22 AM) FOR JUSTICE: got it (01:55:26 AM) FOR JUSTICE: and finally (01:55:39 AM) FOR JUSTICE: is it possible to demote in one position (01:55:43 AM) FOR JUSTICE: while playing another? (01:56:00 AM) FOR JUSTICE: say if i lose playing support and the negative splashes to my mid role (01:56:11 AM) FOR JUSTICE: could my mid demote (01:56:14 AM) FOR JUSTICE: ?
(01:56:56 AM) x: yep, the LP splashing mechanic can cause demotion 💀
(01:57:02 AM) FOR JUSTICE: OOOOOF (01:57:10 AM) FOR JUSTICE: alright, thatnk you very much
(01:57:17 AM) x: no worries my dude (01:57:20 AM) x: anything else you need help with?
(01:57:54 AM) FOR JUSTICE: no, that is all (01:57:56 AM) FOR JUSTICE: thank you (01:58:24 AM) x: no worries! if anything else comes up feel free to hit us up again (02:00:20 AM) *** x left the chat ***
In other words ranked isn't worth playing this season.
In other words ranked isn't worth playing this season.
ofc it is, in fact matchmaking is going to be even more fair now because it wont feel like you have new level 30's in your gold promos.
besides, my first two questions only apply to fill mains and lane swapping to frequently.
God dammit, this new system is so confusing.
Yeah, it is a bit.
I understand the fundamental idea, but the intricacies like promotion and demotion aren't clear at all. At time of writing, CorruptedScythe had just asked if you can promote from splash and got two directly contradictory answers XD I have no idea who is right.
Yeah, it is a bit.
I understand the fundamental idea, but the intricacies like promotion and demotion aren't clear at all. At time of writing, CorruptedScythe had just asked if you can promote from splash and got two directly contradictory answers XD I have no idea who is right.
same privacy thingy as before. this one rather short tho.
FOR JUSTICE
Jan 28, 3:04 PM PST
Chat started: 2019-01-28 10:41 PM UTC
(10:41:48 PM) FOR JUSTICE: can i get into promos and promote from lp splash? (10:42:29 PM) *** x joined the chat *** (10:42:36 PM) x: Hey there! (10:42:44 PM) FOR JUSTICE: hello (10:43:23 PM) x: So, while it's possible to splash up to 100 LP (10:43:46 PM)x: You can't splash into promotional games (10:43:51 PM) x: Or win via splashing (10:43:57 PM) x: You'll have to play games on that role (10:44:05 PM) FOR JUSTICE: LOL (10:44:09 PM) FOR JUSTICE: ok then, thats all (10:44:10 PM) FOR JUSTICE: ty (10:44:51 PM) x: My pleasure! (10:44:56 PM) x: Thanks for taking the time to write in today! <3 (10:51:45 PM) x: Are you still around? Did you have any other questions or concerns today? (11:04:46 PM) x: Looks like you're not here anymore, so I'm going to go ahead and close this chat out. If you have any other questions, feel free to write back in! (11:04:50 PM) *** x left the chat ***
feel bad tho cause i left the man/woman siting there a few mins XD
If that's the case... can you PROMOTE from splash?
If that's the case... can you PROMOTE from splash?
NOPE! saw a reddit post and asked a rioter this too, you just sit at 100 LP.
yes you can
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yes you can
ive got rioter chatlogs for that too, you actually cant. you sit at 100 LP, you cant splash into promos and splashing wont count for wins.
you won't still sit at bronze 1, actively avoiding every role except for your main though, all the way through diamond 1 They confirmed that in their video. Eventually it will rank you up through the splash, just for that reason wouldn't it?
Yes, you can. There's a reddit post about it.
yes you can demote which i feel kinda kills the system. If you play a ton of adc but your a garbo top and you spam top to get better adc is going to go down the gutter [zombie-brand-facepalm]
Yes, you can be demoted from "splash" LP. You can even be demoted an entire tier.
This is a really poor design decision. One can agree or disagree about the merits of splashing overall (I don't have a big problem with it), but getting stuck in an off role (or trying to level it up) and having your stronger role(s) suffer is asinine.
Given that you can't be promoted due to splash, and get even get INTO promos via splash, and that your LP is capped at 100, you shouldn't be demoted.
Yeah I just got demoted Silver 2 support 0LP to Silver 3 Support 75 LP by losing a game as mid.
So normally I lose 3 LP from splash, but now all of a sudden I lose 25 LP AND have to redo a promotion series for my main role (support)? Wow. That's 20x+ the normal amount of splash, considering I now have to win 3 games as support just to get my rank back. @_@
I guess playing off-roles is a terrible idea for me then. At least until I get better at csing. :/
EDIT: Well technically since I can get support 100% of the time, I guess i can just avoid off-role games if I'm at Support 0 LP.. :/