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One change about Darius, just one.

TouchFluffyTail··5 votes·1,016 views

So more changes coming up to darius, that promise to look like they will do close to nothing to change Darius viability. Its been suggested a few times now I think, and Im sure you guys have thought about it once or twice, but lets just throw it out there, just for the sake of reminding you... Just ONE change to darius, could make a massive difference in his popularity, just one. One change would make him a far more viable pick, without hurting his weaknesses OR pushing his laning phase over the top, just ONE change. Upon a successful exaction with his ult, him and his team gain a massive moment speed buff for a few seconds. Think about that for a moment; It would fit both darius's lore AND playstyle perfectly, without actually pushing him over the edge. Darius is supposed to be this Noxian front-line general, leading the charge and cutting down anyone in his way. Darius getting a brutal execution in a team fight, boosting his teams moral an charging forward, it would be perfect for him. Darius has two main weaknesses:Being kited, which is a weakness that should probably stay, and his poor team fight potential. Decreasing the time for his ult to be recast, lowering the cooldown, manacost, ect, its not what he NEEDS, and after doing this so many times it should be obvious that it wont help. Darius does not need a full rework in my opinion, as he has the potential to make his current kit work just fine for him, and in my opinion, doing this would be a massive step in that direction.

Try putting it in the pbe, get some testing done, just try it, please riot, I implore you to consider this over yet ANOTHER cooldown related "buff" to his ult, that nobody is really going to feel until super late game, and most likely wont even see enough play for anyone to notice.

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youngjake935 votes

Lol the current buffs look huge imo. The only reason he can't dunk entire teams late-game is mana costs and guess what? They are removing the mana cost from his level 16 ult. They also are changing it so the level 16 ult gives a an actual reset instead of just allowing you to recast for a brief period of time. So basically he will ALWAYS have his ult up late-game and be able to cast it 5 times in every teamfight if played correctly. He will put Kat pentakills to shame. Plus he already has an extremely strong laning phase in a lot of matchups.

5 Stacks GG2 votes

I dont think he will put kat penta to shame as ALL of her spell cost nothing and can be used to easily to secure your own kill but yeah this change pretty awesome and Im glad riot is doing this :D

youngjake931 votes

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I dont think he will put kat penta to shame as ALL of her spell cost nothing and can be used to easily to secure your own kill but yeah this change pretty awesome and Im glad riot is doing this :D

I dunnoooo. 680+150% AD true damage capable of being cast 5 times every teamfight seems pretty legit. The current mana cost for a penta kill is about 5/8ths of his entire mana pool. The change will lower it to 0.

Not to mention you will have 0 cooldown on it after the teamfight ends instead of the normal 80 seconds. So if you get a triple kill and happen to find their 4th member defending their base, you will still have your ult up.

TouchFluffyTail3 votes

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Lol the current buffs look huge imo. The only reason he can't dunk entire teams late-game is mana costs and guess what? They are removing the mana cost from his level 16 ult. They also are changing it so the level 16 ult gives a an actual reset instead of just allowing you to recast for a brief period of time. So basically he will ALWAYS have his ult up late-game and be able to cast it 5 times in every teamfight if played correctly. He will put Kat pentakills to shame. Plus he already has an extremely strong laning phase in a lot of match ups.

His mana cost are holding him back? You sure about that? You SURE it has nothing to do with his inability to catch up to other players in coordinated team fights? Also, seeing as how his only strong match ups are against other melees, which nobody in ranked plays anymore (aside from Irelia sometimes, and top lane sion who just pokes you down with e anyways), Im not sure where his lane phase to you is a problem. Anything ranged, which is the new top lane standard like lissandra, nidalee, still jayce, and kenne, will always win against him.

I dont know what kind of ranking players you play against that darius is either A: Living long enough to dunk everyone b: Actually managing to smack that many people three to five times each, or C: Actually reach the back row in the first place. A movement speed buff for something like three seconds on an execution would only make sense to him, and his team up for a better contribution for the late game.

Darius plays off as this greedy, "I have to take every single kill or im not helping enough" playstyle that hardly works with anyone. Maybe with kat doing it a few times, and akai, it worked because of the gapclosers and resets, but darius gets a 20 second reset on an ult, that requires someone to stand still and slug it out with him for it to reach full effectiveness. You dont need to take every kill for you to be an effective contribute, one ult and a speed up can open the gates for the rest of your team to make plays.

youngjake935 votes

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His mana cost are holding him back? You sure about that? You SURE it has nothing to do with his inability to catch up to other players in coordinated team fights? Also, seeing as how his only strong match ups are against other melees, which nobody in ranked plays anymore (aside from Irelia sometimes, and top lane sion who just pokes you down with e anyways), Im not sure where his lane phase to you is a problem. Anything ranged, which is the new top lane standard like lissandra, nidalee, still jayce, and kenne, will always win against him.

I dont know what kind of ranking players you play against that darius is either A: Living long enough to dunk everyone b: Actually managing to smack that many people three to five times each, or C: Actually reach the back row in the first place. A movement speed buff for something like three seconds on an execution would only make sense to him, and his team up for a better contribution for the late game.

Darius plays off as this greedy, "I have to take every single kill or im not helping enough" playstyle that hardly works with anyone. Maybe with kat doing it a few times, and akai, it worked because of the gapclosers and resets, but darius gets a 20 second reset on an ult, that requires someone to stand still and slug it out with him for it to reach full effectiveness. You dont need to take every kill for you to be an effective contribute, one ult and a speed up can open the gates for the rest of your team to make plays.

I mean he has 340 movespeed and a passive that gives him 5% more for every champion he managed to even touch once. That's 394 if he hits 3 champs with his Q and doesn't even have boots. Granted, he can be kited if literally nobody let him touch him in the first place, but that's the kind of champion he is.. If he gets his hands on you, he kills you. No sense in changing his identity to make him some mobile generic bruiser just because you don't like how he plays.

TouchFluffyTail2 votes

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I mean he has 340 movespeed and a passive that gives him 5% more for every champion he managed to even touch once. That's 394 if he hits 3 champs with his Q and doesn't even have boots. Granted, he can be kited if literally nobody let him touch him in the first place, but that's the kind of champion he is.. If he gets his hands on you, he kills you. No sense in changing his identity to make him some mobile generic bruiser just because you don't like how he plays.

How is that a generic concept? An execution into a teamwide buff, who else has that exactly? And do you not read whats being posted, or are you just quoting me, and only talking about 1/3rd of whats being said? Darius's weakness to being kited is what makes him a hit or miss pick, for a reason. He should still be kited as a single target, but as a team fighter, he needs more of an impact than what he has. Nobody, not one person, at any reasonable level of play, is going to allow darius to ever reach the back row for any reason. without a speedup, a gap closer, or anything of the sort, his best and only method of surprise is a flash pull. With a buff to the ult in the way I mentioned, it would better cement him as a "lead the charge" kind of fighter/tank, then a tank/press r if someone is actually next to me, playstyle he has now. Obviously darius cant be in too good of a spot if hes hardly even picked in blindpick, much less any ranked games.

Eedat4 votes

Upon a successful exaction with his ult, him and his team gain a massive moment speed buff for a few seconds.

So Darius gets his ult AND Svir's ult combined into one? Sounds pretty broken OP to me. On top of the fact it soft resets? Sounds like you want Darius to be OP and not balanced tbh

LoRdJeSuS69694202 votes

Sounds like Axe from dota

SouL1ess2 votes

It is exactly Axe from DotA = =

5 Stacks GG2 votes

what they doing with Darius on the pbe is the only thing Darius needed, after that they can not touch darius for years i wouldnt care, speaking as a Darius main with over 2k games with him

Qazgir1 votes

I said good day sir

SmknWdl1 votes

They are testing him on the pbe currently if I'm correct

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