The Heimerdinger Needs a Buff

SCG Aberdinger·Apr 8, 2018·7 votes·2,169 views

Hello, please you guys have to bring the Heimerdinger back the way it was before this nerf. Currently, Heimerdinger is one of the least played champions. It got better after you guys did the buff, but now we hardly ever see him getting played r/t the nerf. The good thing before was nobody could dive the Heimerdinger, now anybody can dive him even if you have ult turret, three little turrets, and hitting granade and rockets you dont kill anybody anymore. What do you guys think ?

16 Comments

Professor WardApr 8, 20184 votes

Cant Lie, Heimers Ult turret nerf was fucking insane, and some of it needs to be reverted.

LycanoonApr 9, 20182 votes

TBH...I love dinger...before and after the "fixes". it just takes dinger getting fed and having AP Penetration a major focus early on if you really want to be a threat. Most people go for max AP instead of actually playing him as a support...if you usually go for straight laning...especially top, you're asking for problems. The way most people can play dinger...is as a AP support. If you have someone playing a strong ADC and you happen to end up against Noob Picks for bot...well, problem solved.

Dinger is very versatile...just gotta play to your current match-ups weaknesses...namely the melee champs early on. Best to roam-support (yea yea yea...i know, people get pissy as f#$k when others roam outta lane)...but if you want Dinger to be viable and lethal early/mid match...this is the way to go about it.

Feed your Dinger, but don't let em feed...back em up, and keep his ass strong. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Dope SoloApr 8, 20181 votes

Is this a buff heimer problem, or more like nerf the toxic tier problem?

HeímérdingerApr 8, 20182 votes

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Is this a buff heimer problem, or more like nerf the toxic tier problem?

obv you are just toxic, really heimer is weak. if can , lets compare some other A.I. Ults. Iverns ult does more damage than heimers ult turret. explain that one? ive been playing thiks champ for close to 3 years . he is weaker than hes ever been.

Dope SoloApr 8, 20181 votes

I'm asking if the reason he's weaker is because the field around him has gotten stronger. Heimer was a little too strong, the ability to camp your turret early with swarm didn't seem healthy to me.

HeímérdingerApr 9, 20181 votes

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I'm asking if the reason he's weaker is because the field around him has gotten stronger. Heimer was a little too strong, the ability to camp your turret early with swarm didn't seem healthy to me.

he was balanced before the nerf tho.

Sharp ChedarrApr 8, 20181 votes

I'm OK with him being trash tbh. Honestly, does anyone here have FUN laning against a heim?

HeímérdingerApr 9, 20181 votes

you easily can now tho, anvia,veigar,cass,fizz,ahri

Sharp ChedarrApr 9, 20181 votes

Not top lane

HeímérdingerMay 17, 20181 votes

oh you mean the ones that get too tanky to kill at level 6?

Proxy345Apr 9, 20181 votes

It takes 5 Heimerdingers to beat one Leona lol thats how weak he is and I've played that matchup in one OFA match already.

PopcornBunniMay 17, 20181 votes

The champion needs a power shift. Too much of his impact is in his cancerous lanebully power from Q constantly being off cooldown. His RW is really strong especially for team fights, but his play pattern too often revolves around whether his opponent can safely attack the turrets or not.

Mrniceguy2216Jul 22, 20181 votes

I'm a mastery 7 heim, I do personally believe that before the Neff heim was hard to play against in some ways however after the Neff I feel that riot was to harsh to heim and made so.etching that already exists. They essentially made heim the same as any other skill shot ability champ and he in my own opinion lost his own uniqueness, heim is suppose to be this champ who is known for his turrets but right now honestly his turrets do nothing anyone who wants to play heim will only use their turrets to try to get cs as they poke the enemy champ with their rockets while trying to land their incredibly difficult stun. His turrets no longer are a threat to good players and he's only viable in certain situations. You can honestly never pick heim first because if you do your opponent will pick a champ to counter you almost always because many champions counter him. The simplest top lane champ that counters is garen, a decent garen and spin to win his way into your turrets probably take 1 or 2 out and spin to win his way out now you might be thinking well why don't you try to stun him? The problem with this is you have to predict his movements precisely with the stun and if the garden is good enough he can juke you out. So essentially this spinning bastard and all in you at all times as long as he doesn't horribly fuck up. Then there's Quinn and its easy enough to know why she counters heim. Darius counters heim because he just hooks in the turrets and destroys them instantly removing your only csing ability and if your unfortunate to get caught by a good darius your good as dead. These are only some of the champions the counter him top lane. Essentially all champs with an area effect that can target his turrets or has a range bigger then his turrets destroys his turrets instantly leaving him with 3 abilities. His stun is a real hit or miss ability because of its small hit range and is usually only used by heim to either try to proc his turrets ( if there even still there) or to try to set up his rocket ult. His turrets ult suffers from the same problems his turrets suffer from. His stun ult cam be very good in certain situations. His rockets are another problem for me. If riot was going to Nerf anything I thought it was going to be the rockets, but NOPE. they didn't nerf this high damage ability. Heims rockets are literally the only ability that makes it so he's a threat, this ability is the reason why people claim heim is over powered because he can easily one shot unfortunate non Tanky champions. And honestly I agree with this, Heims rockets are to good right now but the problem is their the only good thing about heim right now when you see a heim ulte you either see him use his rockets or his stun ulte. That's because the rockets basic and ulte form is devastating. I honestly believe the only way to fix heim is to do 2, maybe 3 things.

Heims turrets need a buff, not to much where literally no one can do anything but not to little where all you use them for is to get cs.
Heims rockets need a nerf, right now these things just do way to much damage and people end up relying on them way to much
Maybe buff his stun range? I feel while this is nice I don't know if its absolutely necessary at the moment.

To close off my statement my main points is heim was introduced as this scientist who used turrets as his main ability. This was suppose to make him a unique champion and set him apart from the others. But now heim has become as far from unique as possible becoming just another ap skill shot champion who also has turrets. I just wish that riot could uphold this uniqueness of the champ where his turrets are suppose to be his main thing while also keeping him balanced. Sorry for his long as rant I just felt I needed to say this.

Mrniceguy2216Jul 22, 20181 votes

Heims turrets need a buff, not to much where literally no one can do anything but not to little where all you use them for is to get cs.
Heims rockets need a nerf, right now these things just do way to much damage and people end up relying on them way to much
Maybe buff his stun range? I feel while this is nice I don't know if its absolutely necessary at the moment.

Mrniceguy2216Jul 22, 20181 votes

Heims turrets need a buff, not to much where literally no one can do anything but not to little where all you use them for is to get cs.
Heims rockets need a nerf, right now these things just do way to much damage and people end up relying on them way to much
Maybe buff his stun range? I feel while this is nice I don't know if its absolutely necessary at the moment.

Mrniceguy2216Jul 22, 20181 votes

Fuck I posted this three times can somebody please delete the other two copies