Why can Ornn only upgrade 8 specific items?

SonicFlyht·Aug 9, 2017·2 votes·561 views

As the title asks, why is this a thing? That's just unbalanced. Why do you want these specific items to be a staple in 100% of loadouts? That reduces item balance, and reduces the variation in the items you want to be purchasing. If 8 items get upgrades, than all tier 3 items should get upgrades. Well then that makes it super unbalanced, wherein the team with ornn get an autowin. Oh I have an idea then, don't add Ornn to the game then. He's an absolutely terrible idea for a champ.

7 Comments

HenzoAFAug 9, 20171 votes

I think Ornn ia a great ideia but is being poorly executed.

HenzoAFAug 9, 20171 votes

I plan to create a little game in the future, and be sure Riot I'll create a better version of Ornn!

Fear the KaynAug 9, 20171 votes

Ornn's upgrades should upgrade the unique passives/actives, not just giving raw stats.

Baron BarianAug 9, 20171 votes

Because these are in fact the 8 important items that players need. Top laner fighters want the black cleaver, tanks want the cape, supports better damn get locket or redemption (personal complaint irrelevant here), and ADC's 9/10 of the time really really REALLY want the critical strike damage.

Riot recognized these as the 8 must-use items generally used by each play style, so they made the upgrade choices these so that every single champion can benefit from it. I feel that there would've been actual balance issues if they made any more options than this, simply because having options by itself is a very powerful, potentially broken utility.

SonicFlyhtAug 9, 20171 votes

And that's exactly why I hate this champion. Why should these 8 items ALWAYS be a mainstay? That, right there, is imbalance. You said it yourself.

Baron BarianAug 10, 20171 votes

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And that's exactly why I hate this champion. Why should these 8 items ALWAYS be a mainstay? That, right there, is imbalance. You said it yourself.

There's only so many items in the game, and you're able to get 6 of them. There could be other items that give crit bonus like Infinity Edge, but it would have to be weaker nd cost less and not be valued like the Edge, or be more expansive and powerful to the point that Edge would be absolute. These here are the very best and expensive items, and that's why they were chosen.

It's not an imbalance. It's basic gameplay. You want to work up to building the best items for your role.

SonicFlyhtAug 10, 20171 votes

I was able to get an answer from the pbe livestream. I just asked the same thing as here, you know, why are you showing favoritism towards these 8 items? They basically said the same thing as you, which reiterated my point. "These 8 items are iconic to each role, and mean a lot to specific champions." I appreciated the answer, but regardless of what you guys would like to believe, that IS imbalance in it's truest form. Whenever you are required or highly encouraged to run a specific character or use a specific item in 100% of situations, you've created an imbalance. Where you don't want to have 6 items that DONT include one of these 8, that's an imbalance. I'm not saying Ornn is necessarily overpowered or gamebreaking in himself. I'm saying he only reinforces the item imbalance that was already present. BTW there's probably over 50 endgame items in this game, so your whole last comment is moot. These are not the best and most expensive items anyway. There are 10 more expensive items than Infinity Edge, and BotRK for example is used by ADCs in almost every game. Runaan's Hurricane is a staple for ADCs. There's much more to these decisions than people think and than what they'll say. It's imbalanced and he's a stupid character.