what i heard of the new IE WIll give double crit but it will not give crit itself... so here is my question ....WILL IT STACK WITH YASUO'S PASSIVE ? SO HE GETS I.E and phantom ....30 % from phantom ...hence 60 % from passive + double crit from ie = 120 ..or 100% since there is no 120 % ....so 1 crit item for yasuo along with ie is enough BUT NOW HE DOES 20 % TURE DAMAGE casue of I.E ....so is this a nerf ? (sry for bad english )
Yaśuo Main3 votesyea people say its a buff but its actually one of the biggest nerfs he has ever gotten in his entire history
he has to spend ALOT more gold to get to IE and PD power spike, he does less damage crits in exchange for true damage but because of how conquerer works he cant use his own rune anymore he has to use PtA which isn't nearly as good, etc.
SilverMadKing1 votesstill does it stack with his passive ? i mean he will get 100 crit from 1 cirt item ..where is the nerf in that ?
Kaioko1 votesHe was getting 100% with IE and PD before. Now he still will; but will be dealing his reduced crit damage, but get true damage as a compensation. Overall it's a slight nerf not a huge one like people are saying.
SilverMadKing1 votesstill isnt the true damage better then reduced crit damage ?
Kaioko2 votesThat depends from Riot's explanation conqueror and IE will scale multiplicative so you're getting 16% true damage from IE if you already have conqueror (which is probably why Yasuo will return to taking PtA). The 10% reduced damage on basic attacks means 180% damage instead of 225% while on his Q means 150% instead of the 187.5% that IE was providing.
Converting 16% or even 20% if we say that PtA is as good as conqueror is on him right now (it's not that's why Yasuo takes Conqueror currently in all matchups) won't really make up for that much damage loss unless he's fighting a Rammus with ridiculous armor amounts.
Increased gold costs probably won't be great for him either although the extra 10 AD on IE will be nice. They'll probably buff him slightly to compensate a couple patches down as he will most likely needed, but he won't be dumpstered level champ either even with those changes.
GlacialScion1 votesI think the extra AD from Conqueror is the bigger deal and thus will still make it the preferred keystone. Yasuo is the best user of the extra AD because he almost always goes towards 100 percent crit chance, which makes the AD nearly twice as valuable.
Bronze 1 99LP2 votesnerf against squishies buff against tanks
ArKaDaTa Returns1 votesI agree I mean the new changes to crit items are obviously a slight nerf as the items are more expensive so that is a given the new ie changes while not bad are not the best. The true damage as you said will be better against tanks however, against squishy champs the damage is severely lacking as the critical damage amplification that old ie offered is what gave yasuo most of his power. At this point he serves as an underpowered fiora imo. Also the massive amounts of true damage have a downside that is you will not be able to make full use of Lifesteal which is fairly important on yasuo. Tbh if riot removed the part where yasuos crits do reduced damage I feel the changes won’t hit him too hard. However, for the time being I am as a yasuo onetrick who is fairly experienced and quite high up the ladders on various accounts I’m trying out a more ad hp heavy build which feels quite powerful. Example full build would be PD/Shiv, whichever boots u prefer, triforce bloodthirster/botrk, GA and streaks.
Immune to Girls1 votesIf we put aside that this is nerf look it this way.If new ie double crit and his passive stack on each other, it opens a lot new buildpats. Rush cloak of night than full rageblade or new essence reaver or tri force and than finish ie and boots. This also opens place for lethality item(if you decide to go domination tree).And after you can build what you need depending on matchup.But this only can happen if crit stacks. Or just not build ie at all cause conqueror alredy gives true damage and rush pd statikk. Also there is a chance that Riot wont be able to balance this right away so they might kick in ap yasuo.But since this is in pbe maybe just maybe we will get another rune that will give you ad based on crit above 100% (example- if you have 130% crit you get bonus 40 ad) Let's just hope for the best (Sorry for bad English :D)
Xl Jing Ping1 votesAs a yasuo main ranking in 135 oce yasuo mastery and gold 1(getting plat this week) i think its a nerf with yasuo passive and i would rather not build ie and go pd and stormrazer then bt dt and sterak with a boota of ur choice(sorry for my english)