Zed has less than a 50% win rate.

Tybonus··2 votes·843 views

Instead of crying, try to comprehend he's always going to be an incredibly high skill cap champion with tons of outplay potential.

Not to mention the fact if he gets slightly behind he pretty much falls into obscurity and late game there are a ton of methods to peel him ( buy an Hourglass you peasant.), If you're not at least gold I don't think your input is required.

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AtheosisX3 votes

LOL at the Zed main making a thread telling people they are bad/stupid if they think Zed is overpowered.

Tybonus1 votes

Yeah man I'm such a zed main! Oh wait, I have 15 games of zed played. Go back to crying.

Just notifying you peasants of the facts.

Angry Monster2 votes

You use a point in click to gap close, then spam out your spell and weave out an auto or 2 and press R to safety? This is not high skilled. You do not even have to worry about positioning. And lets be honest here zeds laning is pretty safe if you have the IQ of a monkey.

Yes mages should know to build zhonas. And they should not bitch be bitching if they are to stupid to do so. Zed has game play issues and the nerfs that riot is try is the wrong direction.

Tybonus1 votes

Let's pretend Zed doesn't need the fantastic early game.

I do hope you're readily aware of the fact late game it takes one singular stun and he is otherwise popped. He is an early and late game bully, if he gets ahead due to your inability to stop him from dominating lane or your jungle refusing to camp the obvious strong laner that's your own issue not any sort of gameplay issue.

Oh please, baiting out movements from the enemy jungler needing to save your w as an escape while also being a mele champion in the mid lane are all indicators of a champion with a skill cap. He isn't akali who you can slam your fingers down after being 0/5 and get kills.

You should note this is from someone who probably has 30 zed games max played?

By the way, win percentage is actually one of the highest indicators of whether a champion is "op" or not. Look in challenger, masters, diamond or platinum and Zed's winrate is below 50%. Rek'Sai before his nerf was around 63% in all divisons, Akali is pushing 55% in all divisions, Zed is sitting at 47%. He isn't op, his kit is fine. I don't mind this slight nerf they're giving him but it's hardly necessary.

DrCyanide1 votes

I hate the "champion X is weak to stuns" argument. Unless you're a tank or Gangplank , you are weak to stuns.

While a 49.1% win rate is lower than 50%, it's not by a significant amount. LeBlanc's kit was op with her silence and she maintained a 45% win rate. Miss Fortune has a 52.66% win rate, and she's considered one of the weaker ADC's in the game. Win rate is effected by many factors, including how freelo people think a champion is, how easy it is for their team to capitalize on what plays that champion makes, how OP they are, how weak the rest of their opponents are, how much risk vs rewards they have, etc. Zed is the 5th most popular champion in the game, and the most popular mid laner, with a 10.71% pick rate in the last month. Yes, that averages to more than one Zed per game (thank you normals). He's gotten a bunch of new fans, yet still maintains a 49.1% win rate? That's an indicator of being OP, not balanced. Zed's very low risk, high reward as well. good wave clear and poke early means he's less likely to lose lane. His ability to dive into the enemy team, do damage, and get out alive (often with minimal retaliation possible) is another indicator of high reward for little risk. Killing a back line champion, making a fight a 4v5 is also a great way to signal to your team to initiate.

I'm failing to see your point about win rates meaning he is fine. If anything, they imply the opposite.

PS: Hourglass counters many ultimates, not just Zed's.

Angry Monster1 votes

I aware that their are counters. I never said were none. Certain type of champs do not have this option though (adcs), and are targeted by zed in the mid game. Its also not fair to say zhonas is the solution for mages. That does require ~ 3k gold. Zed can hit level 6 way before a mage can rush into it.

I feel zed was a better champ before the ult change. The change really expanded the escape mobility that he has. My biggest problem is the safety and the lack of positioning that zed players need. Zed players dive and never think o there is a tower there when they ult.

Zed is pretty brainless and just looks flashy. you ult go untargetable (so you are going to get your spells of first) and you damage that is going to proc again.

Zed would be more interesting if the players movement could put some distance while he ults. Right now if you are at kill condition their is no counter play to save you without a zhonas or QQS. Not even close to skillful.

O by the way zed can be skillful. But only 2 players in the world have ever showed it being done, Faker and Ryu. The plays and counter play that the two did shows how zed can be skillful. No current zed player actually does what those 2 did in their fight.

Kuroi862 votes

Not overpowered. Just too proficient in too many places. Riot is looking to trim away at some of the aspects where he shouldn't do so hot. All indications point to his ability to assassinate being one aspect that should remain completely intact. His win rate is low due to his popularity. But win rate is only a small part of the picture. Also look at pick/ban rate, also look at damage done, cs, towers taken, ect.

Too Ton2 votes

I say you're BADDDDD

Toothless Lion1 votes

The carry crowd can't allow an assassin to have close to a 50% winrate. Sorry, doesn't matter than Zed has probably the lowest damage of the assassins and 3 very strong defensive items people can buy to counter him.

And no I don't main him you whiney bitches. I know that in 2 months you'll be bitching about Rengar again after you get Zed nerfed.

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