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I dont even understand why this champ is in the game. Pretty sure instead of doing dmg with his Q it instead heals the enemy tank/laner. This champ is so fucking garbage right now it doesnt even make sense. Everything about him has been nerfed. QWER all nerfed. Base stats are all shit. His scalings are not good either compared to HIGH mobility assassins like Leblanc. Its bad when an udyr with triforce can catch me even when i ulti away. I just dont understand why this champ is even in the game since having one on your team is like playing without a midlaner for a whole 45 minutes. His cooldowns on his spells are too high except for his ulti, his mid game doesnt exist this champ doesnt fucking exist until the 40th minute of the game when he has 6 items. Even when im ahead on this champ i feel behind. I understand competitive somehow manages to find a way to abuse his ulti, but if thats the problem then give the fucking champ a rework instead of leaving him in this state of uselessness. Every other AP melee laner's base stats are fucking retarded. Diana is pretty much a tank with double dorans and an abysal scepter against any mage. Ekko has good base stats as well, mean while kass has shit base stats shit scaling and shit everything.

Can we have a reworked Kassadin, with GOOD base stats, and some GOOD scalings. Change his kit so its not broken in competitive play, besides just gutting the champ until hes a 50g minion that can run flash away every 1.6 seconds. Id rather have his Q a skillshot and his E changed to something else rather than having this champ that does zero dmg and is utterly worthless in solo que. Make kassadin not have reliable click on dmg or make it to where he has to go in, in order for him to get the kill so he is vunerable to being killed himself instead of him just not doing any dmg. Just throwing this post out there bc im frustrated with playing him and not getting any results. its almost like im handicapping myself just so i can have a shitty blink that doesnt even go far enough so that i can get away from udyr with a fucking triforce.

ALSO list of champs that have insane mobility with insane dmg:Ahri Akali Katarina Leblanc Riven Diana Fizz Fiora Kalista Nidalee

57 Comments

Your Real Mom12 votes

Kassadin now isn't even about using his Q or E for damage output. It's about getting lich bane or frozen fist and smacking people with your W. I can't even consider him to be an assassin anymore. He's always been a favorite of mine but now he's more of a pansy honestly. And in order to go anywhere as Kass you have to get spoon fed for awhile otherwise you're going to have a bad time.

Rew7112 votes

I'd honestly make the shield last longer on the Q, up to about 4 seconds. Make the W heal his mana based on the max instead of missing. Give his E a 50% bonus damage based on enemies AP. And I'd also like to move his 15% MR passive to his Q and scale it as you level the Q so its 5/10/15/20/25% Magic Resistance.

junglerboy161 votes

And then give him another passive too, because leaving him with just "he can walk through units" would be completely lame.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Maybe we should build him like a tank!!! KassadinKassadinKassadinKassadinKassadinKassadinKassadin item 3111 item 3027 item 3143 item 3102 item 3110 item 3026 item 3111 item 3027 item 3143 item 3102 item 3110item 3116

Rew7111 votes

I've tried it, it worked, I started winning a lot, it is amazing how he is now tank-able.

Dreadlocks1 votes

lol sounds pretty legit, you just blink around slowing ppl as much as u can, and because you are tanky you can prob initiate into 3-5 of their team with QE then blink back out for back up lol.

Anidan1 votes

Isn't that what people did in Dominion since games didn't last long enough for his normal SR build to work?

I recall Kassadin being an immovable God-tier pick in Dominion back when many more people actually played it than bots specifically because of his ability to go tank and dominate.

Rew7111 votes

Its not that he is able to burst, heck no thats gone. He now can sustain more of the damage given by and through others better. What with his passive and Q. But, even that has its limits. If you go back to my last time as Kassadin, I did very poorly.

Jeanne fan club7 votes

Not to mention that his ult has a lingering hitbox, so you can't actually dodge abilities. I've played almost every midlaner, and if you are looking for anything kassadin like, go with diana. Diana's burst at lvl 7 with only dorans ring, blasting wand, and amp tome is well over 1300 damage in total.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Why would she wait until level 7, though?

Halo1 votes

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Vistha Kai1 votes

What.

It's IMPOSSIBLE to max any ability before level 9.

junglerboy161 votes

Nope, you need level 9 to max an ability because you need 4 points in other abilities before you can max one.

Halo1 votes

Oh sorry. May bad.

Used to the way of dota.

Jeanne fan club1 votes

Thats just an example. I had full health as viktor and was lvl 8 with scaling health runes. Diana came up with blasting wand amp tome and dorans ring and literally one burst me.

Beoridas6 votes

"i never like the circle around nerfs that has been riot balance policies the past years.

Kassadin didnt deserved the nerfs until the wrecked tank items, bruiser meta and nerfed all his laning opponents...what was supposed to happen?

Here is what kassadin payed for his mobility:

-Huge damage nerfs -abilities CD nerfs -Combo nerfs (R dmg switched to W) -Ap ratios Nerfs -Mana Costs nerfs -R gating nerfs -Silence removed -MR scaling removal -base armor nerfs -R CD nerfs -E slow nerfs -attack speed passive nerfs -R range nerfs -(base health nerfs if im not mistaken)

You wanna know the worst of it? Its that he was already paying for his mobility.

R costs were after 5 casts= 1500 mana (afterwards it becomes 2100) Today its: 1550 (afterwards it becomes 2350)

But it used to be much much worse.

His E is used only after 6 spells done. (which means you cannot trade all the time, or do your combo all the time) Altho its easier in team fights, you still got a cd on it--AND an animation that shows your E is available. All at high costs.

Hes just a complete mess with only weaknesses and two slight notable strenghts. No he doesnt truly counter mages. Galio gets better dmg and resistance than he does.

His mobility is also not on par to leblanc, fizz, nidalee and ulti yi. I get catched by a lot of different champs. even after 16.

Lets not even talk about ryze, olaf and veigar.

"the point was that he paid for it--heavily. Leblanc and nidalee could actually do the exact same thing. Same as lee, Khazix, etc...with much much less issues.

Also that rift walk had CDs (8 seconds lvl 1 back then) its not something you used carelessly.

ahri could spam the shit out of it, poke and severely outplay. Fizz I agree, but he was safer doing his all ins or escapes, which he gets on a low cd and lower mana costs in the long run. Wanna know something funny about fizz?

lvl 5 its 8 sec cds. With CD red. it can become 5 seconds. with longer range and untargetable. His Q (his second gap closer/escape mechanic) has a 6 sec CD at lvl5. 2.8-3 sec CD with CD Red. He has the dmg and the cc big time to do what kass cannot. 730 range for his E, 550 for his Q.

Leblanc is a 10 sec cd that deals more than what old kass R used to do. with CD red: it goes to 6 secs TWICE. with R? she can use that escape/engage 4 times, at a 600 range each super rapidly. for a tiny 100 mana each. (ult is free)

so someone explain to me how kass has the better mobility AND the better mobility for the buck?

lets not even go about udyr, yi, and nid.

here is kass range: 500. SO MANY& can catch him. yet he pays for it with everyyyyyything."

Halo2 votes

I dont know if u played during the glory days of kassadin but i can tell u this. U do not want a buff kassadin.

U may want a reworked one. One with new abilities but this guy was cancer. He was one of the most op champs in lols history bringing death and destruction to every game he entered. He was permabanned everywhere and it was called gg if he was on the enemy team because of sheer amount of bullsht he was.

They have nerfed him like they do with allot of other champs that they want to rework but dont have as top priority.

They nerf them so people wont play them and or not notice them until a rework comes around.

Just gonna clear some bs up

Kassa have got the most mobility in the whole damm game. No competition. His ultimate got a 2 sec cd at max rank wich can be brought down to 1.2 sec with max cdr. There is like no one who can catch him. The problem being that u just need to silence or use any other hard cc and he is pretty much fcked.

Leblanc is a 10 sec cd that deals more than what old kass R used to do. with CD red: it goes to 6 secs TWICE. with R? she can use that escape/engage 4 times, at a 600 range each super rapidly. for a tiny 100 mana each. (ult is free)

U cant compare kassadins current nor old ult to leblancs w and mimic ult. Kassadins ult have such a low cd and is/was not that big part of kassains dmg combo it was mainly his q and e. Leblancs W is her bread and butter and without it her dmg is reduced significantly.

It does not go to "6 sec twice" her R have got a separate cooldown wich is 40/32/24 sec.

she cant escape/ingage 4 times. She can escape 2 tiems and ingage 2 times.

has the better mobility AND the better mobility for the buck?

??

lets not even go about udyr, yi, and nid.

Udyr and yi can only really run. They dont have any dash nor any blink unlike kassadin. Udyr is also really counterd by slows etc.

Yi might not be counterd by slows but that guys isnt even that fast. Rumble and hecarim are both way faster than him. Dont know why u brought him up.

Nidalee. Well shes just stpid. I think everyone can agree on that.

Beoridas2 votes

I played since mid s2. did you know he wasnt op back then? do you know what happened that made him so strong all of a sudden? So yes. he deserved buffs. where? well we just need to pick. he received over 15 different nerfs.

explain to me how does he have the best mobility in the game? cause riot said so? plz. ive come up with numbers that showed hes outclassed in mobility. show me urs.

Besides. it doesnt matter the cd of his ult. whch is at its lowest at lvl 16. way later in the game. but in distance done. my point is that he can be catched none the less. wether by pure speed of motion or mana gating.

how can i not compare whats comparable? She has a longer range mobility and can use it to engage disengage much more quickly for the same 100 mana than kass can in two casts. W doesnt have to be bread and butter btw. she can USE Q+E or anything she wants. all her abilities hurts. kass used to have Q+conditional E+R.

Its all about the distance done. Ive done over 1k games as kass. done plenty versus him and done every match up possible in the book. i know that champ in and out. when i tell you im being catched all game, even after lvl 16. there is a reason for saying it.

Halo1 votes

Well here is my math

Im gonna use ms = movement speed Units

Clarifying things With 100 ms u travel 100 units per second With 300 ms u travel 300 units per second

We are gonna take the abilities maxed

For the first calculation we are only gonna calculate how fast they move only with their abilities. These are some with the highest mobility that doest require a second target that is (in other words fck kalista)

Kassadin Kassadins ult have 500 range and a 2 sec cooldown this means that he travels ≈250 units per second

Nidalee Nidalees punce have a 375 range and 5 sec cd meaning she travels ≈75 units per second. If nidalee would be puncing to a target with her passive on all the time she would still only be moving at ≈150 untis per second

Leblanc Leblancs W have 600 range and 10 sec cd meaning she travels at ≈60 units per second. Leblancs Mimic would only raise this to ≈85 units per second.

In this race kassadin wins without a doubt and by allot.

in a race where the total distance is 3000 units kassadin would be there in 24 seconds, Nidalee in 40 and leblanc in 50 without ult and 40 with ult.

It is true thouhg that on distances lower than 1200 leblanc would in no matter what.

If we take running into account vs someone like yi for example

Kassadin Kassadin have a ms of 340 meaning that he moves 340 units per second that + his ult means that he moves and 590 units per second

MasterYi Master yi have base ms of 355 and his ultimate at max rank increases his ms by 45%. 355x 1.45= 514.75. This means he moves 514.75 units per second.

Kassadin still moves faster than him.

If we match him vs somone like hecarim

Kassadin Kassadin moves at 590 units per second

Hecarim Hecarim is a bit tricky. First we calculate the average value of his e. Its stated that it gives him 25% movement speed increasing to 75% during 3 seconds the avrage speed increase should then be 43.75% (might be wrong here) giving him 495.9375 ms

Making kassadin faster

If we would do this in the jungle kassadin wouldnt be able to get beaten.

This enforces my argument that kassadin is the most (or alteast one of the most) mobile champions in the game.

Beoridas3 votes

lets put some real in game application now.

lets say kass wants to go in and out. 2 sec casts. 150 mana. leblanc wants to do the same? insta cast 100 mana.

Now lets say kass wanna go on a straight line and fizz and yi is following.

kass uses in 4ish sec 3 casts, distance 1500, 350 mana. mov speed is usually aroun 380 but stops everytime he uses ult. leblanc in 1 sec catches kass, kick his ass and travels 1200 total, still in range and prolly blew him up by his second cast.. 100 mana. 7 ish cd (with cd red) fizz: E the kass, 730 units later, is ahead, pokes him..kass ults again, Qs (500)..kass ults sgain, oops, Q is available again..oops..E is available again. no way out for little kassyboy. good thing fizz dindt ult too.

yi with his freaking yoomus, statick, botrk and ult goes in: 656 mov speed, without three drag with botrk slow. lets just say kass will find it very hard to run away from. Udyr same.

Nid with 20-30% cd reduction: 3 sec pounce; 375+higher mov speed.: 535 mov speed. and if catch kass with her passive. 3 sec jumps 750 distance.

lin short term. they all catch kass, after 2- 3 casts: they still catches him. killed him already most likely. after 4-5 casts, hes ahead only of leblanc, nid can still do some dmg.

Then afterwards he would be somehow safe. after 1500-2000 mana..then he wouldnt be able to keep the chase and be out of mana. only fizz would be the closest in speding and wouldnt have spent more than 400 mana.

back when he had 700 i would totally agree with you that he has the best mobility. but on paper...but mostly in reality. he gets caught left and right. in the early, mid, and a little longer race. afterwards he has no mana to keep on.

Halo1 votes

Are these your so called "numbers" that u have running?

This is nothing but assumptions.

Nid with 20-30% cd reduction: 3 sec pounce; 375+higher mov speed.: 535 mov speed. and if catch kass with her passive. 3 sec jumps 750 distance.

Did u even like calculate anything or are these just random numbers?

to get her pounce down to 3 sec she would need 40%cdr not 20-20%

Her average ms wouldn't be 535 but instead 460. 375/3= 125 125+335= 460 units per second.

A few notes

  1. She must get her passive in you by landing a spear or u walking in a trap. A skiled player should be able to avoid these

  2. U have al ower cd escape meaning that if she jumps on u, u should instantly be able to jump out of range again with your ult. She cant catch u.

lin short term. they all catch kass, after 2- 3 casts: they still catches him. killed him already most likely. after 4-5 casts, hes ahead only of leblanc, nid can still do some dmg.

After 3 casts hes ahaead of leblanc by 300 units and with another cast he is 800 units ahead of her.

With 3 ults kassadin is out of nidalees q range.

None of them can catch up to u like u describe.

Then afterwards he would be somehow safe. after 1500-2000 mana..then he wouldnt be able to keep the chase and be out of mana. only fizz would be the closest in speding and wouldnt have spent more than 400 mana.

Fizz would not be closest.

He only needs to spend aprox 1000 mana to get out of almost all situations .

What are u basing your arguments on?

Beoridas1 votes

my bad for nid cd. however the mov speed of her passive goes to 30% if in bush going towards an enemy. also. its not too hard to land a Q lol.

as for fizz. absolutely. check his range. points remain for yi and lb.

Halo1 votes

Its not too hard to dodge a q either

As for fizz. Yes and no. In the previous calculations ive onyö used skllshots ushc as nids w and lb:s w. fizz q isnt a skillshot though.

If we were gonna count who would be closest to kassadin with target skills too the one who would win 100% of the time would be nocturne.

For example fizz can q over a wall without having vision over that target.

So sure he would be closest out of those but noc would win the race in the end.

Beoridas1 votes

noc usually catch me. but to me: even tho there is many arguments abou what may or may not happen during the chase. it just seems to me that there isnt any excuses anymore to say that hes not paying for his mobility, hes paying arguably 10X more than anyone else ever had. Like someone else said here--he paid for his mobility with his mobility on top of the 15 nerfs he got.

Halo1 votes

First of all jumping 3 times as kassadin takes 350 mana. Thats 117 mana per jump. At the fourth jump its 750 thats 188 per jump

117 aint much for a jump. 188 is though but with the usual kassading build it shouldnt be too much of a problem. Its not like u are alistar and runns around with 700 mana pool at the end of the game. Its not expensive for what it gives u the first few times.

my point is that he can be catched none the less. wether by pure speed of motion or mana gating.

3 jumps take 350 mana. Thats nothing. If u escape to the jungle (as u should) there is no one that should be able to catch u if u jump over walls.

how can i not compare whats comparable? She has a longer range mobility and can use it to engage disengage much more quickly for the same 100 mana than kass can in two casts. W doesnt have to be bread and butter btw. she can USE Q+E or anything she wants. all her abilities hurts. kass used to have Q+conditional E+R.

W doesnt have to be bread and butter btw.

It is though and denying it is like denying that ryze q isnt his bread and butter. BUT U CAN USE RYZE W AND E i hear u scream.

Anyway. Its longer range yes but it has a longer cooldown and most imprtant thing of it all SHE IS A DIFFRENT CHAMPION. The ability is in a diffrent kit with diffrent mechanics. Not only is she extremly squishy but also only 335 moventspeed. Expecting everyone to have equal abilities is dumb. I mean ive been wanting to be able to jump to allies with talons e for ages like kaarina but i have never gotten that.

I think he needs a reworked kit because during his glory days he had 60% winrate whie being extremly popular something that almost never happens unless really broken. He was toxic he was op and just like all other former op champs he got dumpstered and forgotten by riotgames untill they want to break the game again.

Kassadin is still sht and i dont get why u play him though. He have seen some succes in competitive atm wich is fun.

Beoridas1 votes

i was just saying that he can be catched easily. and out maneuvered. but yes hes shit we agree on that.

Anidan2 votes

I've been here since s1. Did you know that, unfortunately thanks to Riot's balance cycle, when everyone around you is nerfed and your power remains unchanged that you're now overpowered? When everyone around you is forced down several levels and you remain untouched, you aren't in the same position you were before - you are now much higher than everyone else.

Kassadin was, as Miolini said, a big pile of bullshit that Riot didn't know what to do with in S2 and S3. He wrecked face on the Rift, and if he wasn't wrecking shit up on the Rift he was cleaning house on Dominion better than literally everyone else. He had a tier of his own in Dominion for the most part, shared only with Rammus and Poppy briefly. Kassadin was outrageous. He was less so in yolo queue (but many champions are less outrageous in yolo queue) than in competitive, but in competitive he fucked people's shit up so hard that Riot knew they'd have to do something about him, and so they did. And then they went overboard.

And if you want to get into the debate about whether they should balance around the majority (solo queue) versus the professional few (competitive play) then that's a different, and altogether futile, topic. But for Kassadin, they chose to balance around the professional few who abused the ever-loving hell out of him while he was strong.

RedTrinketGoneHa1 votes

{quoted}

I dont know if u played during the glory days of kassadin but i can tell u this. U do not want a buff kassadin.

U may want a reworked one. One with new abilities but this guy was cancer. He was one of the most op champs in lols history bringing death and destruction to every game he entered. He was permabanned everywhere and it was called gg if he was on the enemy team because of sheer amount of bullsht he was.

They have nerfed him like they do with allot of other champs that they want to rework but dont have as top priority.

They nerf them so people wont play them and or not notice them until a rework comes around.

Just gonna clear some bs up

Kassa have got the most mobility in the whole damm game. No competition. His ultimate got a 2 sec cd at max rank wich can be brought down to 1.2 sec with max cdr. There is like no one who can catch him. The problem being that u just need to silence or use any other hard cc and he is pretty much fcked.

U cant compare kassadins current nor old ult to leblancs w and mimic ult. Kassadins ult have such a low cd and is/was not that big part of kassains dmg combo it was mainly his q and e. Leblancs W is her bread and butter and without it her dmg is reduced significantly.

It does not go to "6 sec twice" her R have got a separate cooldown wich is 40/32/24 sec.

she cant escape/ingage 4 times. She can escape 2 tiems and ingage 2 times.

??

Udyr and yi can only really run. They dont have any dash nor any blink unlike kassadin. Udyr is also really counterd by slows etc.

Yi might not be counterd by slows but that guys isnt even that fast. Rumble and hecarim are both way faster than him. Dont know why u brought him up.

Nidalee. Well shes just stpid. I think everyone can agree on that.

He was never OP, he never got above a 48% winrate in solo Q, one of the weakest winrates at the time. Now I know you might say winrates don't matter, but the fact is that they do. When someone can't even carry 50% of their games, how the hell does that make them OP? He might be frustrating to play against, but never OP. I can tell you for a fact that during Katarina's glory days, she was more OP than Kassadin will ever have been.

Halo1 votes

During s3 his banrate ramped up and in oktober 2013 it reached 90% banrate in ranked games

If a champin recieves that high banrate. Doesnt that mean that someting is wrong?

PL551 votes

-Combo nerfs (R dmg switched to W) -R gating nerfs -R CD nerfs -R range nerfs I really don't get the logic, he is paying for his mobility then has his mobility nerfed anyways?

Beoridas5 votes

the reason why hes picked in competitve was to counter azir and smite ez. Also, hes a very safe pick. dying less means winning more.

But yea hes shit.

NΣQ4 votes

Kassadin was reworked in wrong way, cuz rito thougths that silnece was the bigest problem with him ... Kassadin wasnt broken because of silence but beacause of Riftwalk. Now he hasnt got any disables to prevent from death when he is jumping to melee range to use his W. Riot should bring him back silence (on Nether Blade for ex), and nerf CD on ult to 6/4.5/3 (with no range buffs ofc).

Poorly Dressed4 votes

Kassadin is the only champ in this game that gives up damage for mobility - sad times :(

Vistha Kai9 votes

At this point he even gives up mobility for mobility.

RedTrinketGoneHa2 votes

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Kassadin is the only champ in this game that gives up damage for mobility - sad times :(

well if we are talking about base danages and scaling, Katarina's Q, W, E all have trash bases and scaling. Her ult is the biggest problem in her kit. Imo her Shunpo and Ult should only recieve 50% of her passive CD reduction on kill.

Even Akali's bases are probably the worst of any assassin in the game, 260 on Q, but she has to proc to actually do that much, meaning her initial q only does 115. Laning phase is shittier than Kassadin's and Katarina's, her E is a weird skill to have in her kit ever since they removed the proc, I could understand it having low bases and scaling just cause it synergized so well with her kit, but after the removal I think the base damage should have at least been up'd to 160. Anyways overall I think Akali is in a fine spot right now, even though I main her it's hard to win a lot of games since her biggest counter is only 250g.

Fallen Soraka3 votes

If it makes you feel any better, Kassadin has a really high base AD.

FistOfSharkiesha3 votes

Kassdin is one of those numbers champions like Akali and Katarina that simply can't be balanced. If they were ever allowed to be strong in lane, they would be oppressively overpowered, running around killing any enemies as soon as they got back to lane. Yes he's weak and might need some slight improvements but he can't be helped much without going back to being an uncatchable snowballing murder machine.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Akali needs her passive removed, then she can be made perfectly balanced.

Don't even get me started on Katarina. They should do to her what they did to Yi's reset passive and she would be perfectly fine.

Kassadin got a proper nerf, he was in an OK state, then he got nerfed two more times for a good measure, because apparently someone somewhere sometimes could win the lane with him.

Akali is SO HOT3 votes

It makes perfect sense considering he had a 98% banrate for over a whole season

Swollwonder2 votes

{quoted}

I just dont understand why this champ is even in the game since having one on your team** is like playing without a midlaner for a whole 45 minutes.**

This. Assassins are defined as being able to snow ball early and drop off early right? Well Kass isn't even really relevant until 40 minutes into the game

CasterGilgamesh2 votes

games are over by 40 mins unless you stalled the game to the point the enemy just thinks about FF just to end that bullshit XD

Rinky Dinky2 votes

If he was so garbage right now, then why is it that pro players still use him in lks, lpl, and lcs?

And not only do they use him, they fucking murder everyone with him

A Miss Fortune1 votes

I don't think Kassadin is that bad, but he's kind of just, not there until mid - late game. His mid game actually isn't that bad, but his late game is when he starts to become a threat and It's just not a good spot for him.

Beoridas1 votes

he cannot assassinate 100-0 with 6 items an adc. make the math ull see for urself.

RedTrinketGoneHa1 votes

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I don't think Kassadin is that bad, but he's kind of just, not there until mid - late game. His mid game actually isn't that bad, but his late game is when he starts to become a threat and It's just not a good spot for him.

The problem is that over the past 2 years Riot shaped the game to guarantee the 90% of games don't make it to lategame unless it's bronze or silver elo. It's too easy to destroy towers, baron and dragon buff give way too much push power, and mages are pretty nerfed meaning they can't prolong a game like they use to be able to with Athene's mana regen.

Personally I thought Kassadin was fine after the 170 base q nerf. I still didn't agree with it, but it wasn't the worst thing that could happen. After they nerfed his ult range, all the base damage reductions, scaling on w reduction, q shield value reduction, and removal of ult damage just became so much more apparent. I mean they just need to buff his W and E and he could be perfectly balanced. His E does way too little damage for an ability that has to be stacked, even if a teamfight stacks it fast, you're still gated by mana and cooldown. And his W does pitiful damage for placing you in melee range as an assassin, even if it's technically your AD + 140 + 60% AP meaning technically it does more if not the same amount of damage as Q and E, it still puts you in melee range.

Transgressor1 votes

Kassadin's dead, the balance team along with all tiers bellow gold 1 made sure of it, and the half-assed VU was the icing on the cake.

iainB851 votes

Kassadin is garbage right now, I agree.

I'm also OK with that until they completely rework his kit. His design is fundamentally flawed.

Gorgannan1 votes

They need to just increase the CD on his ult to 12 seconds at all ranks and give him his damage back.

Mylon Requiem1 votes

Meanwhile, EDG Pawn playing Kassadin into the FotM midlaners Azir Viktor and dominating with him.

I don't understand why YOU are even playing this game when all you want to do is cry about champions that are in fact in a balanced spot compared to champions like these Yorick Zilean Mordekaiser Fiddlesticks Poppy that have little to no actual role or value compared to other, superior picks.

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3 Refunds per season, upvote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay156 comments
3,510
votes
UPVOTE FOR URF
Gameplay606 comments
2,440
votes
Yes plz.
Gameplay456 comments
1,721
votes
3 Refunds per season, up vote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay114 comments
1,716
votes
When is ANYONE at riot going to address the awful new player experience?
Gameplay634 comments
1,383
votes