Nidalee is still a problem.

Corporal Cuck·Feb 2, 2015·2 votes·748 views

If I recall correctly the changes to Nidalee were focused around making her cat form more rewarding while lessening her constant harassment with spears that could destroy team fights if someone got hit by one. Before her rework, we can all agree, her spears were terrifying. She would sit in the back lines and toss javelins rapidly until someone important got hit and then the team would go in and it would be over. After her rework... It's still the same. Nidalee spears still hit for over a thousand damage through 200+MR, they still instill a sense of dread and they can still ruin entire team fights. Now she has the kit and damage of an assassin (Gap closer, high mobility, high burst damage, execute), with the resilience of an average top-laner and the poke of a long-ranged mage. Couple all of this with a champion whose kit contains a lot of disengage (eg: Janna) and you're left in a very frustrating situation where you try to counter her poke with a strong initiation and just get completely cockblocked. It's not healthy, it's not fun to play against and it's still a problem.

11 Comments

redniwediSFeb 2, 20153 votes

Nidalee can be dealt with if you're not playing someone she hard counters. Janna is designed for extremely heavy disengage, so if you try beating her with an engage comp you may have a bad time. Engage comps will find these two nearly impossible to deal with, which is why you need other team comps to handle them. It's a game of rock paper scissors really, and if you pick the wrong one you'll lose.

It's like trying to put a sphere through a square hole, if you're getting frustrated when it doesn't work you're missing something that's right in front of you.

Leti the YetiFeb 2, 20152 votes

I dodged 9 out of 10 spears that one 1 pear that hit was the death of me fking nidalee...

Remlap1223Feb 2, 20152 votes

Did you just come back from patch 4.11?

Leti the YetiFeb 2, 20152 votes

nawp, it happened rather recently it was in lane and we both had a kill on each other... well she had about 100 ap and wiped out half my health bar with one spear not all that exaggerating either by lvl 7 or 8, I would have approx 800~900 hp and her spears around that lvl with 100 ap can do like 500 damage

I wanted to believe.. that her spears werent all that anymore that the nerfs gut it i really did, then I did the math and concluded oh, that this was totally normal damage not cuz she was fed or anything

Remlap1223Feb 2, 20152 votes

Well it's obvious from my comments getting down voted that we're just going to circle jerk in this thread about an "OP" champion, so I'm not going to go into detail on your flawed math.

Nidalee isn't OP. She's an appropriately tuned champion that you just don't know how to play against. Literally all you have to do is dodge her javelin. It's easily done by creep blocking or simply moving. If you can't do that, there's a bigger problem than Nidalee supposedly is.

Leti the YetiFeb 2, 20151 votes

I dodged 9 out of 10 spears that one 1 pear that hit was the death of me

no rlly, i did

Now, I'm not convinced by how easy it is to hide behind minions or moving wow, thats effective counter to every champion with a fatal skillshot thats blocked by minions ever they still remain terrifying despite that, cuz it never works out so well perfectly emphasis on fatal...meaning they dont have to hit you with it repeatedly for it to eventually be a problem

I've also noticed in both nidalee and jayce... they push nonstop, kill all the minions in the way and force you to dance under turret for days

~~like cmon, just move.. easy, not sure why everyone is complaining bout a melee like zed mid, how could that guy possibly harm you with those skill shots, just fking move you idiots ~~

Remlap1223Feb 2, 20152 votes

Nidalee is way more manageable now. Before her rework all she had to do was land her Q and half of your health would instantly disappear. Now you have a window of time to react. If she's still doing that, you fed the fuck out of her, and that's your problem, not Riot's.

Corporal CuckFeb 2, 20151 votes

But once you're in game, you have the team comp you have. What do you do in that situation? There's only so much itemization can do, and I'd like to think that games aren't completely decided in champion select.

Trash MammaIFeb 2, 20151 votes

You might as well not even bother mentioning MR lol. Anti-Tank items have become so grossly overpowered now it doesnt even matter. If she has a void staff + sorc boots you might as well consider all your MR null and void. That goes for any mage not just nidalee either

Corporal CuckFeb 2, 20151 votes

No, but I remember there being a small period where AD Nidalee top was popular, then she seemed to drop off for quite a while and now I'm seeing a huge resurgence of AP Nidalee in ranked play. I had actually forgotten she existed until this unpleasant reminder.

Corporal CuckFeb 2, 20151 votes

Against a marksman a Nidalee with only a morellonomicon was hitting spears for more than half HP. I won't disagree that a fed Nidalee is a problem, but the longer the game goes the bigger a problem the spears become.