Senna needs a BIG NERF

ayeane··4 votes·1,253 views

First off passive, She should not get health back at all, knowing that she is a damage support champ. The damage does is enough, she does not need no lifesteal at all. Her healing for allies should be just enough to have them survive not give them amounts of life back. This Champ is a bit to unfair

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Axxuka2 votes

The new support items are buffing ALL Supports right now.

They save supports 1500g and they now 3g per 5s later instead of 2g. So basically supports get ALOT more gold very early on in the game. That's more gold for Senna to spend on AD items which tend to cost more than support stuff.

The new AP support item also give 60 AP instead of 35 AP.

So even if what you said would be right, after playing a game of Sona and checking around AP supports and Senna, they all do better in preseason due to these changes.

Illabethe1 votes

I think you need to learn a lot more about said support items. You're wrong in so many ways.

Ventira1 votes

It's 3g/10, my dude. Not 3g/5.

blindasleep1 votes

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First off passive, She should not get health back at all, knowing that she is a damage support champ. The damage does is enough, she does not need no lifesteal at all. Her healing for allies should be just enough to have them survive not give them amounts of life back. This Champ is a bit to unfair

The reason she seems busted is that she was designed to work with the support item changes, so her kit had to be busted to compensate for that. Nobody at Riot considered what that meant for majority of other supports that don't really work well with them, meaning she flatly outclasses most, and they didn't take into account what would happen if she was played in role that gets to farm consistently.

Illabethe1 votes

Her kit is far from busted. It only feels like that for people who play champions she counters, or ones who basically allow her to stack off champions every 4 seconds, instead of depriving her and leaving her with only minion stacks, or better yet; all-inning her and killing her, because up close, she's easily the weakest champion in the game in survivability terms (unless ofc you flub up diving her).

blindasleep1 votes

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Her kit is far from busted. It only feels like that for people who play champions she counters, or ones who basically allow her to stack off champions every 4 seconds, instead of depriving her and leaving her with only minion stacks, or better yet; all-inning her and killing her, because up close, she's easily the weakest champion in the game in survivability terms (unless ofc you flub up diving her).

Don't very your builds much do you? The easy way to counter her "counters", which are pretty much hook and dive champs is to take the HP based support item and play a little more passive early on, never having to enter threat range to proc and stack, while they have to step up into your wave to all in or proc and if you use Q to poke by targeting their melees you can still hit them next to their ranged minions. It's not that she's completely broken, but her kit was obviously designed around the changes and compensates for her weaknesses with much less effort and far less trade off than the majority of traditional supports. There's a way to beat anything, but she's currently much more flexible than champs designed and balanced around previous patches, and given Riots record that probably wont change quickly or at all for some champs.

NaughtyWord1 votes

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. There's a way to beat anything, but she's currently much more flexible than champs designed and balanced around previous patches, and given Riots record that probably wont change quickly or at all for most champs.

FTFY.

And Senna is busted. She starts off way to strong, infinitely scales, and it is easy as shit for her to get that scaling considering she starts at 600 range.

She is on permaban until her early game is gutted to the point of near uselessness not unlike Veigar Nasus etc.

Illabethe1 votes

Erm.... they are ALL Hp support items?

And no. HP doesn't compensate immobility. Also, wtf are you even talking about? If she isn't poking, she doesn't scale. Much at all. Minion stacks are inferior to champ stacks by FAR.

blindasleep1 votes

Didn't say it was optimal. Said it was safer. She still gets paid, more than other supports, and still gets to stack, while forcing others to fight in her wave or to also play passively because minions will shred you early game and a little extra HP will help her survive an all in while they do so. Immobility doesn't mean much if you never get into threat range, it's the reason old targon's was melee only.

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