Riot Please Give Garen the Nerf/Rework He Deserves

Azrael Mortel·7/9/2017, 10:26:01 AM·3 votes·1,638 views

Garen Okay, before you all dismiss this as the harping of a person who hates playing against Garen, let me say this: I would play Garen if he wasn't so broken. I mean, look at his kit. He has a silence, true damage AoE ult against the Villain, a spin attack that shreds his enemy's armor, he gains armor and magic resist passively by killing enemies because of his W which would be more balanced if it was actually a bit of a CHALLENGE to kill anyone in the game, his Q also removes slows (forgot to mention with his silence), and to top it of he heals a percentage of his base health when out of combat with enemy champions and minions don't stop that heal. He can just stay under tower and spin until enemy champ comes around and then just spin more after pressing w and q on his enemy. He needs either a rework or a nerf, and I know that there are plenty of others that agree with me. There are plenty of people who are tired of playing against him in Normal where they can't ban anyone. There are plenty of people who are tired of banning him for the majority of their games when they have plenty of others that they would ban if Garen wasn't such a major priority. He needs mechanics and less CC/CC removal. Why can't Garen just take the damage like most of the other top laners? Why does he have an ult that does the same amount of damage as a 50/0/35 ADC who built nothing but AD? Why are we tired of playing against him? Why do some of us avoid playing him? Because he's an overpowered champ who requires no skill at all for a player to win nearly every (if not all) of his matches. Make his gameplay more interesting Riot.

12 Comments

nGio7/9/2017, 10:50:08 AM5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Azrael Mortel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yp8xqyQ2,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-07-09T10:26:01.603+0000)

I would play Garen if he wasn't so broken.

The only thing broken on Garen are his legs. Master + Challenger combined he's at 27% win rate. Garen really ramps up in Bronze and Silver, where he has his highest personal win percentages at 50%.

"Broken"? Nope. OP? lol. Needs nerfs? Must be trolling. Rework? Yes please.

Critmaster Garen7/9/2017, 11:25:48 AM3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Azrael Mortel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yp8xqyQ2,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-07-09T10:26:01.603+0000)

Garen true damage AoE ult against the Villain

boy, i wish this was true.

The Sword Saint7/11/2017, 3:38:39 PM2 votes
The JigSAW7/9/2017, 1:53:51 PM1 votes

Here's the main problem with Garen in a nutshell:

He's a tank with the damage of a fighter. Tanks aren't supposed to deal the amount of damage he puts out, and anybody dishing out the damage Garen puts out should not be able to tank two or three people. Add to that he has no resources (mana) and you have a guy who constantly regenerates his health and deals damage for no cost. His Q silences, boosts movement speed, removes all slows, and does bonus damage higher than his AD. His W passively grants 30 armor and MR on minion kills and 30% reduced damage for 3-7 seconds. The E shreds 25% of your armor, can critically strike, double damage to a single unit, and deals true damage to the "Villain" while his ult does missing health damage to a single target in magic or true damage vs the villain. So how do you deal with it?

Either he's a tank (ditch the true damage, the E critical strike, make Q damage scale with max health only) or he's a fighter (massively nerf Perseverance and ditch his W passive) - he can't be both. Much as people hate the truth the OP is posting the truth.

CharlesPrime2566/12/2018, 4:23:37 AM1 votes

I find it impossible to kill him at times unless I am playing a broken champ myself. In my opinion he's worse than teemo.

Dr Nastato4/3/2018, 4:28:34 AM

I'm not saying Garen needs a nerf i just personally wish it, i was playing Kayn with 200 ad and a item 3071 , i went into combat with a Garen who had a item 3742 and a item 3071 whom was not fed, it took me 23 seconds to kill him, thats not ok, and i walked out with almost all of my health gone, i just think he needs a new kit and not a complete nerf like poor poor AurelionSol. : ^)