Shaco S5 JG

AntiSemite Clown·Nov 7, 2014·2 votes·5,212 views

When S5 Jg Hits shaco is going to become useless (or incredibly Difficult). Shaco should be changed to help him survive the jungle. i propose a higher base damage and a QoL changes on his box to make the health increase for every point added to it. Shacos Q is fine for the most part as a good ganking tool. Shacos E should be reworked as a passive ability to generally increase his damage (like vaynes or gnar 3 hits) and have a chance to dodge minions or monsters. Shacos Ultimate should be reworked to have it display the same items and buffs as shaco and to cast the same spells.

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Wehrmacht BunnyNov 7, 20142 votes

Actually as playing Shaco Jungle quite a lot I've learned his weaknesses, currently. Shaco cannot just run around the jungle killing monsters and keep up with his team. He will fall behind in the first 5-10 minutes. He has to constantly gank and get kills or assists to keep up.

In the new Jungle he is going to become even harder or unviable simply because of the cooldown of smite. The 60 second cooldown is going to destroy quite a lot of jungle champions because they rely on smite so much to succeed, but none will have such an impact on them like Shaco.

Shaco is already a hard enough champion as it is to jungle, and making the jungle harder is just going to kill Shaco off completely.

Drunk RummateNov 7, 20141 votes

shaco is cancer

AntiSemite ClownNov 7, 20141 votes

As is lee sin but his early game in the new jungle will be fine while shaco will suffer early and he already has a bad lategame so he should be buffed

Drunk RummateNov 7, 20141 votes

Shaco's late game starts at 20 minutes because he already has 16 kills and a fully stacked Sword of the Occult. So really his late game is pretty good.

AntiSemite ClownNov 7, 20141 votes

Shaco's late game starts at 20 minutes because he already has 16 kills and a fully stacked Sword of the Occult. So really his late game is pretty good.

well if you feed him 16 kills before 20 of course he will stomp. your acting as if all shacos can easily get 16 kills before 20 without any effort and is easy as can be. any champion with 16 kills before 20 can stomp especially if they are a jungler.

xJLx MCHammerNov 7, 20141 votes

When S5 Jg Hits shaco is going to become useless (or incredibly Difficult). Shaco should be changed to help him survive the jungle. i propose a higher base damage and a QoL changes on his box to make the health increase for every point added to it. Shacos Q is fine for the most part as a good ganking tool. Shacos E should be reworked as a passive ability to generally increase his damage (like vaynes or gnar 3 hits) and have a chance to dodge minions or monsters. Shacos Ultimate should be reworked to have it display the same items and buffs as shaco and to cast the same spells.

Shaco will be fine, if not very good

Also, you seem to forget the intention of the new jungle

They want to separate the -Counter junglers -Gankers -Farmers

into groups with unique playstyle that have unique advantages and disadvantages, so something like this -Counter junglers (strong duelers, but decent ganks with decent farming) -Gankers (good gankers, but not the best farmers, decent duelers) -Farmers (faster farms, mobility, but weak ganks, and decent dueling)

AntiSemite ClownNov 7, 20141 votes

i dont think they can separate them considering that champions can be all 3 categories and still be really good(looking at you udyr and lee sin). i just feel shaco could use some quality of life changes or just a buff in general.

xJLx MCHammerNov 7, 20141 votes

i dont think they can separate them considering that champions can be all 3 categories and still be really good(looking at you udyr and lee sin). i just feel shaco could use some quality of life changes or just a buff in general.

Shaco is fine as is

Any buffs or nerfs to junglers will have to wait till after its on live to start.

Yes, a few will be good in all three categories, but LEe wont be one of them

crippler38Nov 12, 20141 votes

what if you start at the new wight gwamp frog- nevermind just hear me out

start off at that frog thing with poison armor planting boxes at it and blue, then go kill blue since it spawns after the new wight. then walk into enemy jungle with most of your health due to boxes being the greatest level 1 clear ever and murder them at the new wraiths, new red, or the stone bros since it is only level 2-3 and you're shaco so you should be fine

WiseGuyAbeNov 20, 20141 votes

As a shack main I can't play him anymore. He can't gank at a third health he is just a free kill when he is that low. He can no longer kill blue, enemies red, and 1 Krug to hit level 3 which means his early counter jungle is worthless because his health is too low and he isn't level 3. The buffs kill his boxes faster and the sustain from the new jg items isn't enough 3/2/1 with two health pots a box and smite. 3rd blue buff reduced me to 20 percent health. He can't even solo dragon anymore. He has lost all of his usefulness unfortunately.

skrithurzDec 3, 20141 votes

As a shack main I can't play him anymore. He can't gank at a third health he is just a free kill when he is that low. He can no longer kill blue, enemies red, and 1 Krug to hit level 3 which means his early counter jungle is worthless because his health is too low and he isn't level 3. The buffs kill his boxes faster and the sustain from the new jg items isn't enough 3/2/1 with two health pots a box and smite. 3rd blue buff reduced me to 20 percent health. He can't even solo dragon anymore. He has lost all of his usefulness unfortunately.

Yes, I know the early jungle is trash, but for me around LvL8 I simply power farm with Shaco using Stalkers Blade- Devourer, Hydra, and Statikk Shiv and get around 100 stacks in no time at all, have full build, 2-3+ Dragons, and LvL18 while everyone is still LvL13-15. His early is trash but his late is truly amazing in my opinion.