lp decreasing during a winstreak

moey·Dec 6, 2019·1 votes·2,161 views

im currently in Silver III, used to get 20+ lp when i win, but after like a 7 win streak, my lp gain kept going down by 1 every game and is now 16lp when i win. but i used to get 28lp when i was in bronze I. Does someone know why this happened?

7 Comments

Ashe mage ADDec 6, 20192 votes

Probably your MMR went up a lot but since your rank is still the same range you're getting matched with lower MMR players then yourself so you gain less cuz of that.

SubdueDec 6, 20192 votes

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Probably your MMR went up a lot but since your rank is still the same you're getting matched with lower MMR players then yourself so you gain less cuz of that.

This is incorrect. You're matched based on MMR, not based on your rank. So, for example, if you are Silver 1 and you queue dodge every time you get to your promos, you'll eventually be playing with Gold 1 or 2 players even though you're Silver 1. When your MMR gets higher than Gold 1 MMR, you'll end up skipping promos and jumping straight into Gold 4.

Ashe mage ADDec 8, 20191 votes

Meh, match making is a joke half the time either way. He gets lower MMR enemy teams then.

SubdueDec 8, 20191 votes

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Meh, match making is a joke half the time either way. He gets lower MMR enemy teams then.

This is also incorrect. With the exception of duo queues, all of the people he plays with are about the same MMR.

Ashe mage ADDec 10, 20191 votes

Dude, even if op.gg is just an estimate whenever I win against lower average MMR teams then my own I get less LP and when I win against higher MMR teams I get slightly more, how do you explain this shiz then?

SubdueDec 6, 20192 votes

How many total games have you played? Your first 20-30 games or so in a season have higher LP gains/losses as the system estimates your correct MMR range. As you play more games, the average LP swing decreases to around 16-20.

Other things that impact LP gain/loss:

MMR relative to the game. If you're the highest MMR in the game, you'll gain a little less per win, lose a little more per loss. Vice versa is also true.
MMR relative to your tier. If your MMR is significantly higher than your tier, you'll gain more per win, lose less per loss as the system tries to get you in sync. Vice versa is also true.

Streaks have no direct effect on LP gain/loss except in how they affect your MMR.