Nerf Vayne

rindo789·10/5/2015, 7:49:40 PM·25 votes·2,297 views

I cant even look at her at the champion select anymore. She is just so broken. She did 3 basic attacks to my Alistair support and he was half the health down, he had like 2000 hp! Or when she turns her ult on... she is just unstoppable. And thats scary. When i see her at the loading screen i do this: Stare at her for 30 seconds and sigh because** she IS so unskilled**. All i saw in the game was that she popped ult and did tons of dmg. And roll, and roll, and roll. Thats all she does! I just dont kow how to play againts her and nothing stops her. Shes like a train and you are on the rail waiting to be hit by it.

So please, nerf her massivly because that 5 or whatever dmg down its not gonna help.

28 Comments

QuantumLight10/5/2015, 8:41:39 PM5 votes

you cc her. literally any cc and shes dead, as long as your team focuses her. (hard cc)

She does tons of damage, but literally 1 screw up and shes dead.

TotN Titan10/6/2015, 12:04:21 AM5 votes

Vayne OP 100% pick/ban in World's! Oh wait, that's not true... She might not be completely balanced, but as long as we're talking about ADCs, how about the highly contested Tristana or Sivir pick? How about late game hyper carry Jinx? Do they all need nerfs? These are the picks that are winning matches at the highest level of competitive League right now, but Vayne is relegated to the likes of Twitch and Graves as a viable pick. I wonder why that is.

Vayne is in the spot that she's in because Riot can't nerf a champion for her complete dominance of the lower ranks of solo queue since she holds next to no advantage in the upper tier. There are Vayne mains in World's right now that know that she does not hold the kind of power they need to win games, so they don't even pick it. There is more than enough point and click CC, Gnar/Malphite-like ultimates, pulls, hooks, dashes, and stuns to put an end to any kind of Vayne dominance in League of Legends. It's really just about how your team decides to deal with her. Her kit is a completely situational kit where certain circumstances have to be met for her to use it all to the fullest potential. She's not getting escape resets or movement speed boosts on kills or spell shields or support saving ultimates. She just scales well with an on-hit item that few markmen build and has a 3-hit effect that deals unique damage. Vayne is just as killable as any other ADC. And apparently not nearly as viable competitively.

Cowgirl Ed10/5/2015, 8:38:29 PM4 votes

hopefully the "marksman changes" will decapitate her lets hjope

Castman10/5/2015, 11:26:16 PM4 votes

I used to think she's op but then I started practicing this Draven and then suddenly she's whatever.

When it comes to late game power Draven is 10x Vayne however he is much much harder to play so it's justified and left alone. I do agree that for Vayne, her difficulty to play doesn't justify her power.

TyroneWatermelon10/5/2015, 9:12:15 PM3 votes

shes a really no skill champion,heck even yi takes more because hes melee

Calabok10/5/2015, 11:30:47 PM3 votes

I thought there was an alley cat in the area, but realized it's just a loud whiner in the room

Karn Bishop10/5/2015, 11:08:37 PM3 votes

Her silverbolts should only scale off of bonus HP, and not total HP, so she cannot burst down squishies.

khorney10/5/2015, 8:49:26 PM2 votes

the only nerf she needs is to lower her aa range to 515 or 525 rather then 550 thats excessive for her. that is all she really needs

A Loyal Support10/6/2015, 3:28:08 PM1 votes

earlier, a vayne on my team was preaching to me about how easy teemo is, and how difficult vayne is. vayne isn't easy. teemo may be mechanically simple, but at least he isn't a broken hypercarry that isn't even that hard to play, like vayne.

Starcall10/6/2015, 3:40:20 PM1 votes

Vayne and Kalista both counter Alistar. Learn to pick better matchups instead of complaining about op champs on forums. Vayne has a ton of terrible matchups. I suck at adc and lanned against a 70% winrate Vayne main. But since I picked Graves I just dumpstered her and made her irrelevent.

Psi2110/6/2015, 4:03:44 PM1 votes

Vayne is just a tank buster in a Tanky Juggernaut meta. Get rid of the tanky dps problem and you get rid of the players playing Vayne just as after 2012 and the end of that tanky meta. To many players play training wheels Juggernauts champs and think they are actually skilled players.

Celeste Benal10/6/2015, 6:06:40 PM1 votes

The real problems with Vayne are her mobility/range-control and synergy between Silver Bolts and item 3153. Mostly BotRK. If you build armor, whoops true damage. If you build HP to counter her true damage, whoops %maxHP shred. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. There is no effective defensive itemization against her. You just have to kill her. And at lower elos, focusing on the squshies is just.... not common.

BattleOxe10/5/2015, 8:03:13 PM1 votes

If she never kites, you're lucky one. Trust me, you really don't want to encounter vayne that knows how to kite

Kata mechanics11/25/2016, 3:13:10 PM1 votes

Vayne is easy to beat just deny her early game and she's.pretty bad in fights without items

Spaceman5pff10/5/2015, 11:28:51 PM1 votes

%MaxHP = Powerful vs all enemies True Damage = Powerful vs all enemies

%MaxHP TrueDMG = Massive damage vs any target. Exceptionally powerful in any fight that she can hit 1 person 3 times. %BonusHP TrueDMG = Massive damage vs almost all targets. Exceptionally powerful vs the Bruisers / Juggernauts / Divers that Vayne is built to kite and trap.

EDIT: %BonusHP would be Epik Nice

Planetship10/5/2015, 11:47:12 PM1 votes

Sigh, another QQ rage thread. "She is so unskilled" LOL, glad I quit LOL for good yesterday so I don't have to deal with these idiots and crybabies

WolfBV10/6/2015, 12:24:22 AM1 votes

One nerf a guy recommended was for her silver bolts to take 5 hits to proc, then 4 hits at 11, then 3 hits at 16. And no matter how much you whine or complain she will not have any major changes until after the ADC itemization rework.

Risurin10/6/2015, 12:53:17 AM1 votes

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She did 3 basic attacks to my Alistair support and he was half the health down, he had like 2000 hp!

If she actually did 3 autos for 1000 damage, your alistar was massively behind/ vayne was massively ahead. Her silver bolt would have only dealt 220 damage (8% of 2k + 60) rest was physical damage. So unless your alistar has literally 0 armor or vayne has a lot of AD, like really a lot of AD, then there is no way this happenned.

RisenDarkKnight10/6/2015, 2:46:25 AM1 votes

Well her w specifically counters alistar ult. His ult damage reduction doesn't work on true damage. She still needs to be nerfed don't get me wrong, but it's nice that at least one champion can kill alistar during his ult.

GastonBarnacles10/6/2015, 10:57:06 AM1 votes

Agree but tristana annoys me way more. So disgustingly safe with huge dmg and insane sieging speed since she has a ranged hydra to push minions and that bomb that lets her take a turret in 2 seconds.

Lady Hammerlock10/6/2015, 11:22:33 AM1 votes

sighsighsighsighsighsigh oh i know she is a completely single target adc with no ability to hit more then 1 target with a spell or auto and a low threat range 1 cc move rip play draven she is rip aoe team she is rip she is unskilled she is rip play cait she will have a bad time play jinx and rockets for days to rape her