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Béyòncé··1 votes·313 views

I literally was farming my first wave and this happened, I can't be the only victim of this. And why is a Jungler out leveling a laner considered to be acceptable.

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Khristophoros2 votes

You moved toward the unwarded brush while Annie had her stun ready. That tiny 25-50 units of movement you did for no reason made you a free kill. Why did you do that? Do you just move randomly without thinking about the purpose of each movement? You were already in range of the minion that you were intending to last hit. There was no reason to move to that location.

Also, you shouldn't have attacked that minion in the first place. It only had one ranged minion attacking it. It would have lasted quite a bit longer before it was in last hit range. And if Annie was still sitting on her stun at that point, you know something is up so you should last it it from long range with Q or just give up it because 1 minion isn't worth dying.

You misplayed, that's why you died. Maybe you don't always get punished for it but this game you did. It's not guaranteed that the jungler will be waiting in the brush but given the situation a better/more experienced player would not have positioned like you did because of the possibility of a gank vs the insignificance of that single minion that you probably could have gotten with Q anyway.

And where were your wards? Did you place them anywhere? You could have had that brush warded as well.

Béyòncé1 votes

Ok 1 my ward was down from warding our jungle, 2 I love how you didnt even address the point of a jungler out leveling a laner lmao

Khristophoros1 votes

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Ok 1 my ward was down from warding our jungle, 2 I love how you didnt even address the point of a jungler out leveling a laner lmao

If you want to reach level 2 sooner shove the wave asap at level 1. If you're not going to do this, then position extremely carefully.

I get that you can't always ward the brush, that's fine. But if you don't ward it then you have to respect the brush more and respect your laner more.

Raoul2 votes

Annie did nearly all the work, all Jarvan did was to give one knockup...

plus... 3 Summoner Spells for one kill... they bought first blood expensive.

Khristophoros2 votes

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Annie did nearly all the work, all Jarvan did was to give one knockup...

plus... 3 Summoner Spells for one kill... they bought first blood expensive.

He flashed so they got his flash too. That makes it so worth.

He just misplayed completely it was basically a free kill.

SEKAI2 votes

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He flashed so they got his flash too. That makes it so worth.

He just misplayed completely it was basically a free kill.

That is not a "misplay", Cass was barely over the line into "neutral" zone.

Unless you consider the correct play in that scenario is to hug turret at level 1. And again, it was level 1, first minion wave.

You're using the result to work backwards, it's a false way of analysing. What you're doing is looking at a clip of someone getting shot in the head, and you comment it with "yeah the guy who got shot "misplayed", he should've dodged his head left prior to even knowing the other guy had a gun. He would've survived if he did that, but too bad he "misplayed"." I disagree.

Béyòncé1 votes

Right, he even said in a comment that I got "too close to a minion to last hit it" like omg if you are that good go be on pro team since he's a mister know it all

Khristophoros2 votes

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Right, he even said in a comment that I got "too close to a minion to last hit it" like omg if you are that good go be on pro team since he's a mister know it all

You can either learn from your mistakes or complain. I gave you some criticism I suggest you take it seriously.

And it's not a pro-level knowledge thing. I'm nowhere near that. But it's something even I can recognize from watching your replay.

Béyòncé1 votes

It's really not that serious you seem to care more than me and I'm the victim here, I'm going to bed have a good day

Khristophoros1 votes

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That is not a "misplay", Cass was barely over the line into "neutral" zone.

Unless you consider the correct play in that scenario is to hug turret at level 1. And again, it was level 1, first minion wave.

You're using the result to work backwards, it's a false way of analysing. What you're doing is looking at a clip of someone getting shot in the head, and you comment it with "yeah the guy who got shot "misplayed", he should've dodged his head left prior to even knowing the other guy had a gun. He would've survived if he did that, but too bad he "misplayed"." I disagree.

The difference between correct positioning and incorrect positioning is often in the ballpark of 25-50 units.

I'm being 100% serious: There is no way I would have positioned that way in that situation. I'm insanely paranoid about the brush in mid. Personally I would have had it warded at level 1, but I'm not gonna tell people you absolutely have to ward it. But if you're not gonna ward it you should not move towards it in that situation especially when your lane opponent is Annie with her stun and flash ready.

Raoul2 votes

So what would you like? That junglers have no effect at all? Close all jungle entrances but the lanes? Maybe just delete junglers?

Béyòncé1 votes

A little overdramatic much? lmao

Raoul2 votes

What else is there? This is literally just a normal gank where the jungler did nothing but give one additional CC while the laner did all the Damage.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

First camp give junglers level 2

WiegrafOfValor1 votes

Back in season 3 laners would have been at lvl 3 while Jarvan would be getting missing pings from his teammates for wasting time.

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