Can we get AP Kog Maw back?

Pluid·1/2/2017, 7:48:45 PM·4 votes·1,164 views

So a patch ago Riot decided that AP Kog Maw (which had less than a 1% play rate) needed to be nerfed under the guise of balancing ADC Kog. On the same patch that Rylais was nerfed, they nerfed Kog's E scaling (from .7 to .5) AND the base damage, making AP Kog mid nearly uplayable because of his already horrendous early game.

So now that AP Kog is wiped off of the rift and we realize that ADC kog is fine the way he is, can we get AP Kog back?

At the very least, can you just give Kog the .7 scaling back on his E? ADC Kog doesn't even build hybrid items anymore ( ), and the already nerfed base damage on E proved to not be a problem. AP Kog had a decently high win rate (around 50-53%) but that was out of the >1% of people that played him.

Please? I just want AP Kog back. I think he was fun to play and not some sort of unhealthy monstrosity that had to be stopped

6 Comments

Sire Hippington1/2/2017, 9:01:59 PM2 votes

I Think nerfing his E was a correct call, and that comes from someone that always prefered ap and hybrid kog over ad. His E is incredible easy to land on a fairly high range with good aoe while also clearing waves with ease and leaving a potent slow zone, and the pure poke playstyle actually IS(was) unhealthy and a monstrosity. However, nerfing E has(had) to come with compensation buffs, as it's a really hard hit for ap-kog. Imo his Q should have been buffed from 0.5 to 0.7 or even 0.8ap, with evt even 1sec less cd to buff his less reliable poke and preserve his burst potential. His E manacosts need to get lowered. Befor the nerf, the costs were kinda justified, but now 80-120mana are just absurd. Some buff to his AAs would be nice aswell, either a buff to his W ratio, or adding some small flat on-hit that scales slightly with ap

Handy Sandy 1/2/2017, 8:30:20 PM1 votes

So now that AP Kog is wiped off of the rift and we realize that ADC kog is fine the way he is, can we get AP Kog back?

But what if the reason why he's fine the way he is, is because that AP kog is gone :O

Calabok1/2/2017, 9:05:41 PM1 votes

They nerfed his OP slime trail for a reason.

Rebonack1/3/2017, 5:34:10 AM1 votes

If Riot wants to buff AP Kog then upping his W AP ratio from 1% per 100 AP to 2% per 100 AP would without question be the way to go. If Kog wants to access the extra damage he would need to move into a range that allows other Mages to actually interact with him. That's Riot's big problem with AP Kog. The lion's share of his damage comes from a range that makes it difficult to interact with him.