Tristana W fix please (Dash to a Jump)

stray5·Aug 2, 2019·2 votes·1,241 views

Hello. Before I get started I just want to say that I think this is my first boards discussion, and even though it is short I will try to get my point across.

Ever since the slight Tristana rework I was disappointed to find out that her W (Rocket Jump) is still not an actual jump. It is, in fact, a dash. This might not seem like a big deal at first, but when you look at it in pro plays and general ranked/normals it is a pretty big difference. The ability being a Dash (Like Shen's dash, or Tryndamere's spin slash) means that Tristana is still targettable even though it appears she jumps mid air. This means that the following abilities can affect her:

Everything.

Not even gonna list. EVERY ability can hit and interrupt Tristana, from Blitz Q to Malphite R. That means that she gets knocked up IN MID AIR! She can be auto attacked, hit with skill shots, targeted for literally any point and click (Jax Q for example).

All I'm saying is she performs the FATTEST of arcs which would make you think she dodges things, but in all actuality shes as vulnerable as a kalista trying to dodge an ezreal ult. (WHICH CAN HIT HER TOO! SHE FLIES LIKE 30 FEET ABOVE IT FOR GOD SAKES!)

So please, riot. Make my girl jump, not dash. Sincerely, a Tristana main.

17 Comments

KFCeytronAug 2, 20193 votes

There is no such thing as a "jump" in this game and no such thing as "up." Making Trist untargetable and/or unstoppable during her W is unnecessary.

ProExpertKingAug 2, 20192 votes

It would allow her to be an adc that allows you to really go ham without being instantly denied being able to play the game.

KFCeytronAug 2, 20192 votes

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It would allow her to be an adc that allows you to really go ham without being instantly denied being able to play the game.

It would allow her to eat a gigantic nerf so she doesn't become 100% pick/ban due to being able to W out of any fight with no counterplay, is what it would allow her to do.

ProExpertKingAug 2, 20191 votes

It doesn't have "No counter play". Mostly it is the counter play. Fizz isn't 100% pick or ban and he can just w out of any fight. You just have no idea what you're talking about and freak out for no good reason.

KFCeytronAug 2, 20191 votes

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It doesn't have "No counter play". Mostly it is the counter play. Fizz isn't 100% pick or ban and he can just w out of any fight. You just have no idea what you're talking about and freak out for no good reason.

Yeah, it'd be just like what Fizz has, only with twice the range, and a reset, and on a different champion. Totally the same.

No.

ProExpertKingAug 2, 20191 votes

Then get out.

Simple as that.

Romans VI XXIIIAug 2, 20191 votes

Plan her W correctly and you can. Thats the difference between GOOD Tris, and BAD Tris.

Tris is perfectly fine as is, and as a tris fan that players her a good amount I DO NOT WANT THIS CHANGE lol. Cause it would have to be followed by a MASSIVE nerf to something else in order to keep it.

ProExpertKingAug 2, 20191 votes

You massively over estimate how much power that is lmao. It wouldn't need some massive nerf, at most a cooldown nerf to her w and maybe a small base stat health nerf to make it so she wasn't surviving too well but it's not like that would cause her to lose her entire ultimate ability because it's "too op"

Romans VI XXIIIAug 3, 20191 votes

You MASSIVE under estimate how much POWER going untargetable is. Lol

ProExpertKingAug 3, 20191 votes

yeah no

Romans VI XXIIIAug 2, 20191 votes

There is NO DIFFERENCE. She could already be hit by everything before this change.

The only thing this did was change her status from "airborne" to not. Cause idk about you, but it was fun getting ulted by yas when I pressed W.

As far as league goes there is technically not a 3rd axes. Game play is 2D, animations are 3D.

ProExpertKingAug 2, 20192 votes

I think she still shouldn't count as airborne but still be a jump so that most things won't hit her.

It doesn't make logical sense that stuff like Nasus's cursed earth would hit someone jumping over it but a tornado totally does. It makes sense for her to still be targeted by guns and bows but not really by someone's sword when supposedly someone is jumping so far in the air as she does. You could even make it so it doesn't make her immeditaly untargetable by melee units, only so far in that she really gets up off the ground so it's not like the most op thing ever, you can still get interupted when you're about to lift off and Lee Sin can still kick you away just before you land. I think it would give a bit of depth to her ability and would have to make players think about when they throw out their spells instead of just throwing it out there and hoping it hits.

stray5Aug 2, 20192 votes

Thank you, this is what I was aiming for in my post originally. It leaves a lot less room for creative plays if you jump over a wall to escape only to be pulled back mid jump by a thresh Q or literally any ability that pulls players back. Meanwhile champions like Fizz Fizz are able to become completely untargetable.

Romans VI XXIIIAug 2, 20191 votes

Yes and what else doesn't "make sense" is that Malphite is as big as a mountain yet Gnar can kill him.

TahmKench is a fish but Nami water hurts him

AurelionSol is a a God but dies to Draven

Ect...Ect....Ect....

ITS A VIDEO GAME, it WILL NOT make sense.

ProExpertKingAug 2, 20191 votes

Tahm isn't a fish and nami sprays salt water. High velocity salt water to a lake dwelling demon. Of course it's gonna hurt. There's a little bit of a difference between physics being questionable and power being questionable.

Gnar can kill Malphite because it doesn't fucking matter if he's as big as a mountain, Gnar can clearly punch through a mountain. Braum did it.

Draven can kill Aurelion cause he's a gladitor who's really good at sticking an axe blade through your skull. Aurelion still has a brain that he needs to have to function. Without it he's dead. Pantheon's new lore even confirms that the celestials can die. Although the idea did come form Morgana and Kayle's lore first.

Saying the Gnar beats Malphite is like Samurais beat Knights. There's no real proof that he can or can't. There is however proof that adding an iron bar to an onion ring won't make it float. If you jump over something, you jumped over it, it can't affect you. That's why can jump over walls because she goes over it but somehow doesn't go over any ground abilities, like wtf.

Romans VI XXIIIAug 3, 20191 votes

Tahm is a Demon CATFISH. And nami hardly shoots salt fast enough to be deadly, specially vs a DEMON.
Gnar is 3ft tall, and transforms into roughly 15ft tall. Malphite is 1000s of feet tall. In RL he would literally squash him with his pinky.
Sol can control intire Cosmo's, he would simple send a star at the planet destroying all life. And laugh.

It's called game logic. Get used to.

ProExpertKingAug 3, 20191 votes

yeah no