Relic Shield Rakan

Taric0nly·Jul 23, 2017·3 votes·3,427 views

So everybody is all hurt over Rakan not getting to execute the minions with relic shield, I think people should just suck it up. He doesn't need a change to his Autos in the coding, if you want to take relic shield then learn to cs with him it's that simple. Mages cs mid lane so Rakan can as well, it may be more difficult but that just means you should go cs practice. It will not just help you with Rakan but it'll help you in every other lane as well. Personally I take relic shield on him and it's a blessing, I had to put some practice into being able to cs with him but it's definitely worth it due to how good relic shield is.

13 Comments

GeauxxJul 23, 20172 votes

Mmm i don't know much about relic shield on him, coin just always seemed like a better item to me

I guess im not the only rakan main who takes coin then

Chibi BronzlifeJul 23, 20172 votes

Really it's a matter of how you build him. Their are really 2 theories here, you can build him tank and be full peel or full engage, or you could build ap or utility and be kind of a blend of the two. Obviously the second option wants coin more as you can push the entire team forward with talisman active and have a very good Mana sustain to remain with the team longer. The first option wants relic more for the added tankyness and the single additional target utility for an important teammate.

GeauxxJul 23, 20171 votes

I mean i know, i just feel as an item for most situations, coin is just better

It was just personal opinion about the 2 items

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 23, 20171 votes

its the same bitch over thresh.... relic is recommended but you cant get the execute passive cuz thresh autos are considered ranged....

Leo1024Jul 23, 20171 votes

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its the same bitch over thresh.... relic is recommended but you cant get the execute passive cuz thresh autos are considered ranged....

but thresh gets extra damage with his E, giving him a significantly easier time to kill minions

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 23, 20171 votes

yes ... but also thresh guides tell you to take AD reds to last hit easier too

Leo1024Jul 23, 20171 votes

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yes ... but also thresh guides tell you to take AD reds to last hit easier too

thresh isn't even hard to last hit on if you max E, which you should, and know how to cs. if you can't then you just need to practice csing in general, i take full tank runes on him and can get minions just fine, miss 2 or 3 but nothing more

Chibi BronzlifeJul 23, 20171 votes

Thresh and Rakan opperate on the same coding, as they should. They get a slight bit of extra harrass at the cost of relic execute. Neither of these 2 champions opperates under the confines that "other" melee champions do, and so the coding reflects it, as it should.

Darkdemon653Jul 23, 20171 votes

AP mid laners CS with their spells, not auto-attacks.

But yeah, I have to very often kill minions with regular auto-attacks as Nasus, who actually has less AD than Rakan.

THE RlVER KlNGJul 23, 20171 votes

Spells have cooldowns. Even champs with low CD poke tools that are good for CSing, like Vlad or Vel or Syndra, can't just keep spamming the same spell over and over to exlusively CS - you can't get good CS based on using spells alone, and besides, you'll have nothing to poke with and in most cases you'll run out of mana. Until a mage gets 1-2 core items 75% of their CS is through auto-attacks.

KlavierJul 24, 20171 votes

Coin is just better. Rakan's cd are really high in early game to make any good use of spell thief's edge and relic shield is just hard to proc for the sustain you don't really need.

Taric0nlyJul 24, 20171 votes

See I prefer Rakan as a hard engage and I feel coin honestly is worse late game then Relic is due to the quest rewards. Yeah you might be hurting early game but if you play around that then you can make more impact late game. As for the issue of procing relic once you get familiar with him you can proc it without a problem.

FantomBanditApr 27, 20181 votes

I dont think it is that supports suck at csing and thats why people dont want to run relic on rakan. It is two things.

In solo q your ADC is not usually going to just let you last hit the minions to proc relic. Sometime they will but in general you rely on the proc to be able to 'out last hit' your adc.
Relic i risky enough because you are always going against 1, if not 2 ranged opponents. The execute on relic gives supports a larger window to be able to safely go and cs the cannon. With rakan being meele range but not able to proc the execute, it will be easy for bot lane to simply wait for a cannon to get within the brief window rakan has to get the cannon and just absolutely punish him or cc him so he misses the cannon.