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I fucking hate League matchmaking: "Oh you've won 3 games in a row? Here's 2 clueless boosted apes!"

HarvestOfShrooms··130 votes·21,570 views

Like how the fuck?

3 whole games of competent players that know what they're doing, my MMR should be going up from these wins so I should be getting better players in my games right? That's how it fucking works doesn't it?

So how in the fucking dickshit hell do I suddenly get a pair of chuckle-nut condom ads so fucking clueless on how to play the game and their champions that they spent the entirety of 20 minutes running it down every time there was a teamfight? I didn't think it was possible for a fucking Tryndamere to straight up miss pressing R not once, not twice, but THREE FUCKING TIMES in a row, and don't even get me started on the one fucking Graves on this side of the universe that decides fucking item 1400 is a better option compared to item 1412 and just feeds every time he tried to solo a single enemy.

WTF is your matchmaking Riot?

120 Comments

Mr Dalloway67 votes

Speaking as a clueless boosted ape I am getting tired of getting matched with people who can't carry me. [slayer-jinx-wink]

AjenLarod3 votes

I feel you bro, I carried my fair amount of bags full of SSSSSSSSSSHIEzen, now it's their time.

GreenHydralisk2 votes

OMG Sammmme!

Starcraft243ver42 votes

Let's imagine just for one second that the matchmaking actually works like that, and that the algorithm deliberately placed this graves and tryndamere in your team because you had 3 games won in a row :

Here's the history of the graves :

https://i.imgur.com/9dAHKWq.png

The very game just before the one you called him a boosted ape, he hard carried his team, and with a blue smite. (Note that this graves also have a 54% winrate with his champion, so it wasnt just "one lucky game")

So, what about the tryndamere ?

https://i.imgur.com/33V4oxd.png

He nearly hard carried every single of his last games.

So actually, looking at these FACTS,** I would rather say that the matchmaking tried to help you win this 4th game after your 3 wins in a row.**

Well, that's what I would say if I didnt know for a fact that you were matched with these players for the simple reason you have a matching MMR.

**But there's no way I could ever conclude that the matchmaking was actively trying to make you lose this game. **

Sir Prepuzius17 votes

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**But there's no way I could ever conclude that the matchmaking was actively trying to make you lose this game. **

...just another salty butthurted kid with a house big ego.. nothing new

Saianna2 votes

If someone plays like shit, you see it. Those 2 guys might have had some ungodly tilt OR their skill was far below the MMR they were placed in.

FridgesArePpl23 votes

Or they just had a bad game. This is Gold 5 and the OPs entire team got stomped. It happens.

Starcraft243ver6 votes

You dont need to have 'ungodly tilt' to go from a perfect game to a really bad one. I'm kinda playing veigar only when I get mid, and yet my stats can change drastically from a game to another :

https://i.imgur.com/SxWhjMO.png

I'm quite the cold minded never tilting player yet my stats are everything but regular.

TWICĘ Tzuyu3 votes

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You dont need to have 'ungodly tilt' to go from a perfect game to a really bad one. I'm kinda playing veigar only when I get mid, and yet my stats can change drastically from a game to another :

https://i.imgur.com/SxWhjMO.png

I'm quite the cold minded never tilting player yet my stats are everything but regular.

four deaths in all four games. Jhin

Davaken17 votes

With your whole sample size of 1 instance, this is clearly undeniable proof that the matchmaking system doesn't work.

IxozieI14 votes

Maybe the enemy team had boosted apes for three games in a row, and that made your team look competent?

Done259 votes

Just had a match. Doing pretty well as Malzahar vs a Veig. Shoving his waves into tower and up on his CS by a goodly margin. My Jungler+ Bot lane go a combined total of something like 0/18/0. Entire enemy team shows up in my lane as a five man with herald and takes all three of my towers.

YuGiHo9 votes

is the reverse true? if i lose 3 games in a row am i more likely to be matched with people who are more likely to carry me?

FOR JUSTICE4 votes

theoretically speaking (if this holds true) it should be, because at that point you would be the "boosted ape" being paired with the 70% WR teammates.

FridgesArePpl22 votes

Neither are true. Your mmr will gone down a bit so you'll be against slightly easier teams because it tries to create a balance of mmr between the two teams. Since your on average about as good as the other people in your ELO though, chances are that you or your teammates are going to carry some games and play like garbage some games. The reason the OP isn't climbing is because he isn't actually better than the "boosted apes" in his ELO.

KVbqbFsC8e6 votes

I would gladly take that over having clueless teammates every single game. You're lucky if it only happens after you win 3 in a row.

IceAYon6 votes

The only annoying thing is winning 3 times in a row and u land in promos, and then losing the 2 games you needed to win in promos to move on to the next rank...and the free win u get for losing promos is just there taunting you. Then it repeats.

Smithy2Q5 votes

Only two boosted apes? My idea of heaven is to have only two boosted apes on my team.

LuxannaVeritas5 votes

Unpopular opinion here.

Everyone gets bad players once in a while, so instead of blaming it wrongly on Riot you should just move on to the next game.

Seriously, even good players have bad games. Just deal with it; it's impossible to have a perfect matchmaking system.

sobi9995 votes

Why the fk is OP's post upvoted when every single person in support of OP is downvoted below? Is it the use of OP's language that deserves the upvote or is this just hypocrisy?

Lastly, why the fk are people backing up Riot's MMR system? We all know that the more you win the harder it gets to climb because the system doesn't try to match you with people with similar MMR but with an overall similar MMR of both teams. So you could have a silver and a platinum both as your team mates. The feeder could just be that silver guy who its not fair on to play against platinum so the poor guy gets flamed for feeding.

Starcraft243ver2 votes

This is mostly due to duo queue. When you are top plat, diamond MMR and your friend is low gold silver MMR, you can't expect the system to accurately place everyone in front of an equal opposant.

Riot's mmr system is as good as it could be with the little information it gets from player's history.

xPhantomDancerX4 votes

My last game is a perfect example. 3 gold V, 2 silver II vs 3 silver II, 1 silver III, and 1 silver IV.

Balanced.

KVbqbFsC8e7 votes

Sub 50% winrate hardstuck through 200+ games Gold 5s with mid silver MMR does not really help your case.

Brain Errör 4044 votes

LOL. This is horseshit. Cuz I'm also hardstuck with a sub50% winrate in gold 4 atm.

But I also made plat on 2 accounts this season:

https://imgur.com/a/49V9ij9 https://imgur.com/a/MoZy2Rt

Pretty sure it's just uncarriable teammates mate....

KVbqbFsC8e4 votes

When you're still there after another 100 games, I'll take note. Also, you have a negative winrate with Rengar on both of your platinum accounts, but he's your most played champion on your gold account.

Brain Errör 4042 votes

Yeah.... I just can't seem to find success with my champs anymore. I climbed with them at the beginning of the season. Mid season feels absolutely horrible now, though.

But I can't put Rengar down... he's just so fun.

Nubulas1 votes

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My last game is a perfect example. 3 gold V, 2 silver II vs 3 silver II, 1 silver III, and 1 silver IV.

Balanced.

Im Bronze and regularly get matched against gold. There is no reason for that to ever happen.

Starcraft243ver1 votes

Actually the matchmaking algorithm is totaly deterministic, so there are plently of reason for that to happen, would you like me to explain these reasons ?

Nubulas1 votes

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Actually the matchmaking algorithm is totaly deterministic, so there are plently of reason for that to happen, would you like me to explain these reasons ?

Say whatever you want, I have seen this over and over for several years and it never makes any sense and is completely screwed up. There is nothing to explain, I have observed the fucked up match making enough to realize that it is fucked up.

And apparently, others have noticed as well.

Starcraft243ver1 votes

Several years, still bronze. Several years, still thinking the matchmaking is non sens, but still not wanting to know why.

Hum I'm starting to see a pattern, is that a lack of basic desire for learning and a flawed logic induced by an overwhelming ego and a lack of self-questionning ?

Nubulas1 votes

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Several years, still bronze. Several years, still thinking the matchmaking is non sens, but still not wanting to know why.

Hum I'm starting to see a pattern, is that a lack of basic desire for learning and a flawed logic induced by an overwhelming ego and a lack of self-questionning ?

I have read how it works and it is the most inane system imaginable.

I get matched with morons on my team and people who are duo and a division higher elo. And it happens all the time.

If I were matched with people of my same level, I should have about a 50 to 60% win rate and slowly climb to maybe silver 3. Don;t think I can get higher than that.

I should never have 8 or more losing streak. During placements I m matched against gold until I lose 20 in a row. WTF is that? And it happens on all accounts no matter what the MMR is.

I should NEVER be matched against anyone in gold ever or anyone who was ever gold.

Thus the "this is fuct up" perspective.

2ManyDedPiggies1 votes

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Say whatever you want, I have seen this over and over for several years and it never makes any sense and is completely screwed up. There is nothing to explain, I have observed the fucked up match making enough to realize that it is fucked up.

And apparently, others have noticed as well.

Hmm, I don’t know if the word is Algorithm. But, that’s besides the point. This guy really thinks it’s not him. So 😌🙏

Hauvar4 votes

I was paired with 4 bronze and unranked. All masteryscore between 45 to 130.

Vs

4 premades high silver -> low plat with a masteryscore of 150 -> 400.

Wanna guess how my bot and jung performed? Despite my jungler camping bot the 3 of em had a combined score of roughly 6/40 at 30 min :(

Sir Prepuzius4 votes

you must be real fun to play with i imagine all kinds of reports.. all kinds..

The Goodest Boy4 votes

Holy fuck I feel this so hard. I've been in silver 2, about to press into silver 1 for fucking days now. Why?

I play 3-4 games to get into my promos. Every game I get a pretty decent team; knows what they're doing, doesn't int during lane phase, listens to pings and shot calls, corrects gameplay based on their mistakes, honorable if we do happen to lose.

I enter my promos.

Riot shoves me into 3 games in a row with 4 braindead half-wits who can't survive laning phase without going 1/8, thinks the game is a fucking PvP dick measuring contest, and has the game knowledge of a rotting bear carcass.

RIOT... PLEASE. WE KNOW YOU'RE DOING THIS ON PURPOSE TO GIVE US A "CHALLENGE." IF YOU WANT TO CHALLENGE US, RAISE THE ENEMY'S SKILL LEVEL, DON'T LOWER MY TEAMS. FUCK.

ƒrostγ3 votes

What you forget is that sometimes you are that clueless ape in someone else's match.

cocacolalips3 votes

one game is worth maybe 10 elo max, 3 games is nothing LOL you are getting matched with the same players before and after whether you win or lose a couple games in a row.

2ManyDedPiggies3 votes

This post is stupid.. This is a team game. You’re extremely self absorbed and you’re not looking at the bigger picture. STATISTICALLY, if you LOOK at your teammates past history. They were doing, in their recent matches BETTER than you. They are OBVIOUSLY not boosted because of the games they’ve played last. There are games we have that are exceptional, then there are games we do crap. There’s a POSSIBILITY that you can have a good game on your promos. But past history shows POTENTIAL, had you LOOKED UP THE PAST HISTORY OF YOUR TEAM AND BECAME AWARE OF THIER STATS YOU WILL KNOW WHAT YOUUU CAN ENPHASIZE ON. FOR INSTANCE : LET ME HELP THIS GRAVES WHOSE GETTING GANKED IN HIS JUNGLE EARLY. BECAUSE HE HAS THE potential TO BE A VEEEERRYYYY GOOD TEAMMATE. LET ME ward FOR THE TRYND THAT KNOWS HOW TO PUSH AND KILL HIS LANE BUT IS GETTING GANKED.

2ManyDedPiggies1 votes

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This post is stupid.. This is a team game. You’re extremely self absorbed and you’re not looking at the bigger picture. STATISTICALLY, if you LOOK at your teammates past history. They were doing, in their recent matches BETTER than you. They are OBVIOUSLY not boosted because of the games they’ve played last. There are games we have that are exceptional, then there are games we do crap. There’s a POSSIBILITY that you can have a good game on your promos. But past history shows POTENTIAL, had you LOOKED UP THE PAST HISTORY OF YOUR TEAM AND BECAME AWARE OF THIER STATS YOU WILL KNOW WHAT YOUUU CAN ENPHASIZE ON. FOR INSTANCE : LET ME HELP THIS GRAVES WHOSE GETTING GANKED IN HIS JUNGLE EARLY. BECAUSE HE HAS THE potential TO BE A VEEEERRYYYY GOOD TEAMMATE. LET ME ward FOR THE TRYND THAT KNOWS HOW TO PUSH AND KILL HIS LANE BUT IS GETTING GANKED.

Another example. FROM VAYNES LAST GAME SHE REALLY KNOW HOW TO CS AND CAN HYPER CARRY. LET ME PROTECT HER, EVEN IF IM NOT IN HER LANE. PREVENT HER FROM GETTING GANKED

did you do this? PROBABLY NOT. GARBADO

WubbaLubbaDubDab1 votes

so he is responsible cuz that vayne couldnt def and chose to push and get ganked?knowing how to farm doesnt mean u are good.

2ManyDedPiggies1 votes

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so he is responsible cuz that vayne couldnt def and chose to push and get ganked?knowing how to farm doesnt mean u are good.

Did you even read what I wrote? Maybe not. Because I said absolutely positively nothing about vayne pushing in my example.

Bobloser35551 votes

xactly sometimes we judge too soon. if someone has ONE bad game they already called noob and boosted...but in truth maybe he just got ganked more focused more or hasnt slept well last night.

The Bad Touch2 votes

{quoted}

Like how the fuck?

3 whole games of competent players that know what they're doing, my MMR should be going up from these wins so I should be getting better players in my games right? That's how it fucking works doesn't it?

So how in the fucking dickshit hell do I suddenly get a pair of chuckle-nut condom ads so fucking clueless on how to play the game and their champions that they spent the entirety of 20 minutes running it down every time there was a teamfight? I didn't think it was possible for a fucking Tryndamere to straight up miss pressing R not once, not twice, but THREE FUCKING TIMES in a row, and don't even get me started on the one fucking Graves on this side of the universe that decides fucking item 1400 is a better option compared to item 1412 and just feeds every time he tried to solo a single enemy.

WTF is your matchmaking Riot?

Would it be better if you won 1... got boosted apes... then won 2?

I'm confused.

HaIlMonitor7 votes

Actually yes. I would much rather win and lose constantly, instead of the very fun win 10 fallowed by the very terrible lose 10.

SonaGivesMeABona2 votes

I feel you, man. A few days ago i won 10 of 12 games. The day after that i lost 10 games in a row. Guess what, the day after i won 11 of 13 games. It is really frustrating.

But only one thing feels worse. Exactly this happening at the borders of a division... A few years ago, I was Plat 3. I got bad teams and ended up in Plat4. I got back to Plat 3, Plat 4, Plat 3, Plat 4, Plat 3... this was going on for about a week

rtbf906614562 votes

well, the way i see it, the avaliable players for your team and enemy team is the same, and it's about whoever gets the shorter end of the stick you know? some games you'll get that master tier smurf that just solo carries the game for you, and other times you'll find that boosted bronze V who's clueless beyond belief. The way I can interpret this, for example, is that you had two games where the teams were well matched and you won through skills, one game where it was a complete stomp (enemy team had said graves and tryndamere) and the game you lost they were on your team. I don't believe it's realistic to maintain a 100% winrate, nor do I think it's realistic to solo carry a game. I guess what i want to say is that you can only do so much for your team before your team needs to start picking up slack, and sometimes, your teammates just don't live up to what you've seen from more competent players, and that's fine! you just gotta remember that you're better than them and this is but a minor setback, don't tilt over it, and get back out there to reach greater elos!

XxDRAGONsAK47xX2 votes

Its fine.

The whole world is fine.

I'm just going to fail my promos for the 10th time.

That's fine.

I'm ok.

Shrek Luigi2 votes

blue smite is pretty good on graves tho.

afmghost2 votes

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