Are you kidding me? This is so awful. It's like rito just slapped all junglers in the face. Camps utterly destroy you now, you have to go back constantly, spawn time is insane. This is literally my last day of league. I main jungler and this has ruined the game for me. I understand making it so you can't just farm jungle 24/7 but are they trying to make it where if you don't gank 24/7 (leesin??) you are worthless?
Rivini7 votesAre you expecting them to not be working on the balance at all during the preseason?
They do this every year. Calm down.
AtheosisX4 votesI've got to say I'm not a fan at the moment. Jungle income and xp are down, the difficulty is up, and I really do not see how a lot of champs are going to manage is unless they have heavy sustain. I do like all the different buff options, but beyond that meh. Also the crab is obnoxious to kill unless you have uber damage.
Pirate On Meth1 votesI main multiple different junglers, Vi, Rammus, Xin, Hec mostly. Hec can't even do blue + red without going back now..
LongHair Fox1 votesVi is fine. Get a good leash at golems (the small camp, yes) then take red and directly to blue. If you get a strong enough leash you can even take the chickens. Rammus now goes from grump to blue to wolfs and then back. Then after that you take red. He can also do the opposite starting at golems. I have seen nightblue go golems to red to chickens to blue on xin. He has no problem at all. Yes he has to back after but that is the new jungle and the way to curb lee sins power. Hec i don't know about but i would assume he can do the same as rammus.
After you are back the first time you buy the aoe smite and jungle goes back to being easy mode. Sure you run out of mana faster and chickens are always a camp you take damage at but that is about it.
Lafouboy4 votesOh god. I just realized. You are only level 23.
You are literally not even ranked yet, with full rune pages. No wonder you think this is hard. You are still a noob.
I am sorry for commenting on this, I should have looked at your level before butting heads with you. Have a good day. I wish you the best at learning how to play League.
Onegarion3 votesSo you play it once and now you ahte it? Ok goodbye won't be missing you
Pirate On Meth1 voteslol thanks for helping the discussion have a downvote!
Lafouboy3 votesBoy howdy. You sure lack brains.
First back, get the second tier of your jungle item. Wahla! Jung is easy again.
Buboniclol1 votesThe second tier jungle item does not just instantly make the jungle easy and if you think so you are obviously misguided.
Lafouboy3 votesNo. It really does make the jungle easy mode. It makes it season 4 normal jungling, but a bit easier.
The change was made to stop early gankers (like Lee Sin) from dominating the game so hard with their level 2 or 3 ganks, so that farming junglers don't get punished for being who they are. Literally, farm 2 or 3 camps, go back, buy the first upgrade for the machete, instantly get back to jungling with the monsters being not that bad anymore.
Seriously. All of these flavours, and you just had to choose salty...
Pirate On Meth1 votesHaha you either don't jungle or are an idiot. I'll assume both.
Lafouboy2 votesJungle is one of my main roles and I can actually give a proper response that does not rely on the rhetorical fallacies of assumptions and ad-hominem to be the argument. So there is 2/2 you dun goof'd.
Pirate On Meth1 voteslol try harder to sound intelligent. have another!
Lafouboy2 votesTrying hard to sound intelligent? Boy howdy, this is just the way I speak. Though thanks for the compliment. :^)
Buboniclol3 votesI couldn't agree with you more. This is literally the worst change they have ever made to the game. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of lag their servers have had lately.
HYPERBOLOCO3 votesJunglers are now second class citizens along with supports. GG riot you win.
Lwnt1 voteslol as a support player welcome to the club.
AtheosisX1 votesI'm thinking people may start having to run some life steal in the runes and/or masteries to manage this jungle with certain champs. Personally I'm just annoyed that the income seems to have gone down and the effort has gone up.
Fredart1 votesOh and when you gank you can't dive anymore because of those fucking annoying bubbles the gay turtles keep getting.