which brusiers can 1v1 a malphite late game

paperbIade·Oct 8, 2016·2 votes·1,751 views

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OurLestradeOct 8, 20163 votes

Juggernauts probably.

BoulderoxOct 8, 20162 votes

Darius , nothing can 1v1 a darius if he gets a hold of you...

PermabannedGarenOct 9, 20162 votes

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, nothing can 1v1 a darius if he gets a hold of you...

There are plenty of champions that can out-right stat-check Darius late game.

Tryndamere is an obvious example who can. Master Yi can as well. He'd kill Darius before Darius even got five stacks on him. Jax would. Yasuo probably would. As would Trundle, it's not even close.

l Dárius lOct 9, 20161 votes

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There are plenty of champions that can out-right stat-check Darius late game.

Tryndamere is an obvious example who can. Master Yi can as well. He'd kill Darius before Darius even got five stacks on him. Jax would. Yasuo probably would. As would Trundle, it's not even close.

Yasuo can't

Fondling GemsOct 8, 20161 votes

Anything with built in Armour pen and damage that isn't auto attacks. Or if they have enough AP damage.

This makes things like Illaoi and Darius (Which thornmail isn't very effective against) very strong. Other things like Jax, who will end up doing almost 50% magic damage, very strong.

Those are just off the top of my head.

paperbIadeOct 8, 20161 votes

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Anything with built in Armour pen and damage that isn't auto attacks. Or if they have enough AP damage.

This makes things like Illaoi and Darius (Which thornmail isn't very effective against) very strong. Other things like Jax, who will end up doing almost 50% magic damage, very strong.

Those are just off the top of my head.

Malphite can bulid magic resist

Fondling GemsOct 8, 20161 votes

In which case Jax will do 30-40% magic damage and 60-70% physical.

Jax does too much damage, on an almost even scaling, with too much sustain and cc and temporary tank stats for Malphite to fight him.

Jax's passive will grant more AS than Malphite takes away, and malphite only does that for short periods of time. On top of that Jax has aa resets which ignore AS reduction.

Finally unless he ults over a wall and Jax doesn't have a ward Jax will always be able to chase with Phage Movespeed, Leap strike, and hextech gunblade.

AnonagonOct 8, 20161 votes

Most Bruisers honestly could do it Almost all of them have some form of built in %hp damage and/or armor pen, and Malphite himself doesn't have a significant consistent damage source against another tanky target.

ShikigamiOct 8, 20161 votes

Bruisers? Gnar.

MunchCrunchLunchOct 9, 20161 votes

late game? most likely any bruiser that builds some lifesteal. malphite strength is early game cheese damage and mid game a cpl items powerspike when bruisers don't have any lifesteal or tankiness.

late game his damage falls off because he won't have that many damage items of any. and all of his damage is burs XinZhao Jax MasterYi Warwick Yasuo

PermabannedGarenOct 9, 20161 votes

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late game? most likely any bruiser that builds some lifesteal. malphite strength is early game cheese damage and mid game a cpl items powerspike when bruisers don't have any lifesteal or tankiness.

late game his damage falls off because he won't have that many damage items of any. and all of his damage is burst

Malphite's W is sustained damage, and his E is low enough cooldown that it almost counts tbh.

MunchCrunchLunchOct 9, 20161 votes

that does no damage to any bruiser with an armor and magic resist item and some hp.

PermabannedGarenOct 9, 20161 votes

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that does no damage to any bruiser with an armor and magic resist item and some hp.

Of course not, he builds no pen.

MunchCrunchLunchOct 9, 20162 votes

exactly thats my point.

SasogwaOct 9, 20162 votes

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late game? most likely any bruiser that builds some lifesteal. malphite strength is early game cheese damage and mid game a cpl items powerspike when bruisers don't have any lifesteal or tankiness.

late game his damage falls off because he won't have that many damage items of any. and all of his damage is burs

Uh lifesteal is irrelevant in a fight vs Malphite, he has too much armor for that to be effective. You don't lifesteal sh*t on 400+ armor people. I mean though admittedly with enough lifesteal, you can switch focus to minions alternativately to get back to full life and then fight malphite again. But it depends if we're talking about a duel without anything or a duel with possibility to abuse minions.

MunchCrunchLunchOct 9, 20161 votes

nope. he will die to any of those with some lifesteal in their builds to negate any damage he does and thornmails.

minions don't matter much late game unless its baron mions or super minions in duels.

SasogwaOct 9, 20162 votes

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nope. he will die to any of those with some lifesteal in their builds to negate any damage he does and thornmails.

minions don't matter much late game unless its baron mions or super minions in duels.

As I pointed out, you don't lifesteal on a 400 armor beast. If the picks beat him it's not because they lifesteal off him, it's because of building shred and tankiness (mr) to negate his damage. Unless you have a very hard carry with good steroids and something like item 3036 . Talked about minions because you can lifesteal 10 times more off a minion than off an armored malphite. Ever tried? The difference is huge. I remember back in the days when prerework Sion AD had 100% lifesteal, if you were against a tank with tons of armor, you had to focus minions alternatively to regain life ; lifesteal is somewhat worthless against tanks with tons of armor. It negates thornmail but that's it.

SasogwaOct 9, 20161 votes

Nasus Irelia MasterYi Olaf Riven Yasuo Fiora Jax DrMundo Darius Mordekaiser Singed Skarner Trundle Warwick and probably others

PermabannedGarenOct 9, 20161 votes

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and probably others

lol, I didn't even think of Singed, but yeah I guess if both were hell-bent on killing the other Malphite would die first.

And you think Skarner has the damage for it? I figured his lack of pen would bone him in a 1v1 against Malphite.

SasogwaOct 9, 20161 votes

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lol, I didn't even think of Singed, but yeah I guess if both were hell-bent on killing the other Malphite would die first.

And you think Skarner has the damage for it? I figured his lack of pen would bone him in a 1v1 against Malphite.

Yeah I hesitated for skarner, but I was like m'yeah with black cleaver probably he has more base damage anyway than malphite and can always get enough mr to withstand malph's damage. So I think he beats malph.

PermabannedGarenOct 9, 20161 votes

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Aatrox Darius DrMundo Fiora Illaoi Irelia Jax Kled MasterYi Mordekaiser Nasus Olaf Shyvana Trundle Tryndamere Udyr Warwick XinZhao Yasuo Yorick

I feel like these ones probably can. Others might be able to, but these ones are probably the best bets.

Yi probably does it the fastest.

Akali is SO HOTOct 9, 20161 votes

Fiora absolutely dumpsters him late game. Full build she can do about 40% of his health in true damage with her ult which means his armor and health don't mean jack. After that if he's still alive then her vital procs will melt his health bar. She can parry his Q or E (probably not his ult because that's pretty hard to do) and even if he lands E on her she has her auto reset on E so an attack speed slow doesn't matter very much.