How to climb

Il Okimarobot lI·Dec 13, 2016·1 votes·570 views

I'm in silver currently as a jungle main and I really don't know how to climb out. My match history is full of losses and I'm the top or near the top of every match... but how the heck do you carry here? Do I have to switch roles to adc or mid?

In analysis I see the turning points that cause these losses are a solo player not grouping, bad calls on objectives or team fights near 25 minutes, and lanes losing beyond being gankable. That doesn't include the RQs and afks.

Is it even possible to climb out of here?

9 Comments

Envoy of MelodyDec 13, 20161 votes

Been possible for me, partially luck, partially just carrying with anything that isn't a low damage CC tank. Champions that can get things done on their own will easily carry you out of Silver because many people just don't know how to go against them. It's always fun to see a team of 5 people be unable to figure out how to deal with a splitpushing Tryndamere.

GrimspeakeDec 13, 20161 votes

Shyvana Bloodrazor botrk tank.

Thank me later

RandomoniumDec 13, 20161 votes

I think most diamond+ people would say jungle is the easiest to carry at low elo since you can impact every lane and snowball the early game.

It'd hard to tell what your specific issues are just by looking at stats but a very common problem I see in low elo junglers is they don't assist their team in getting towers. You can farm great and get a ton of kills but if you don't push objectives then your gold advantage is useless. As a jungler you need to be thinking 2-3 minutes ahead of time, knowing when all your jungle camps are going to spawn, how to maximize your efficiency, and knowing how the lanes are pushing so you can not waste time trying to gank a lane with a low probability of success.

After a gank always try to push out the lane and deal some damage to the tower. You'll occassionally get some idiots who will spam ping you for "stealing" farm but don't listen to those fools. It's nearly always the right call to push out the lane because it damages the tower, denies the enemy laner a ton of gold/exp, and resets the wave to a neutral position.

As a jungler you can also track where most laners put their wards by watching their portrait on the minimap. Players will literally walk to a bush and then walk back in a straight line. It's extremely obvious if you're looking for it. This allows you to know where their vision is and more importantly where it isn't. If you can make the enemy team afraid to do anything because they don't know where you are then you've won as a jungler.

There's tons of great coaches on lol-coaching.com. I'd also be willing to help if you're willing to settle for a gold scrub.

dominusxDec 13, 20161 votes

just play meta champs and you win by default considering how stupid they are. that's it thats how you climb in season 7 i dont think you going for diamond anyway so all u gotta do is abuse the op champs per patch and you can get to gold. then you can try to learn macro and improve further macro is decision making.

khorneyDec 13, 20161 votes

gank early and be aggressive, im using malz supp it works peopel say it sucks and i ask them why and they give 0 reason just that it sucks and im a troll....

Inquisitor KaneDec 13, 20161 votes

Your bigegst problem is farm and kill participation. Both are quite often very low when comparing to team kills and how long the games were going.

That means you are losing time either with ineffective ganks or just randomly run around then turn and run back because by the time you get there enemy either killed oyur laner and escaped or got killed (I do that a lot if I have to jungle :D).

Look up FoxDropLoL's videos about how to be better at jungling. This guy will help you A LOT. He is great. Give hime even a sub if you like :) https://www.youtube.com/user/foxdropLoL
Stop wasting time. Whole game you should be either farming or ganking/team fighting, nothing else. Try to watch the mini map and determine where to go next. You gank (successfuly or not) then go back to base to heal/buy or go farm a camp. Maybe even two. Depends on the situation in game, your hp and need for gank or counter gank.
WARDING!!!!! Dude you literally put 0 wards down. Yu don't ewven bother to buy and use red wards. SAure, oyu buy like one or two, maybe use it once... then you lose objectives and get caught. Whenever you are doing dragon or baron you hsould put control ward near sto deny enemy vision and make stealing it harder. Ward defensively or offensively - depending on the game. Just use the bloody wards! If you don't see where the enemy is, you lose. You are moving around the whole map, ward it.
You die a lot. Keep your deaths to minimum Like 5. When I look at my deaths in game I always go with this chart: 0-5 kinda ok, 6-8 you suck l2p, 9+ feeder, team mates should have reported me. Learn how to recognize time to commit and time to run. This needs time and practice, so be patient, grasshopper.
Low jungle objectives control is also losing you game. Usually you tak about 0-2 dragons during the game. That is about 2-4 less than yo ushould. Sure, you can't have 3-5 dragons each game, but aim for it anyways. They are important. Around minute 10 or 12 you should get your first dragon. Or at least ward it and then deny it from the enemy. Go for dragon/baron steals. Jungle is your territory. You should know when is good time to get dragon, herald or baron. Gank bot and if you guys survive and have enough power and hp, get the dragon (care for enemy jungle/mid stealing it and moping you up). You are around top lane and enemy jungler is ganking bot? Either take rift herald, gank top/mid or go down there with mid laner because if your bot lane loses, enemy will have free dragon.

Ofc with last point "terms and conditions applies" since every situation is different and requires different approach. But use it as a rule of thumb, see what works, what doesn't, always ask why it didn't work and what could you do to make it work.

Watch your LOST games in replay system. Watch every death and ask yourself why you died (a.k.a. what did you fck up royaly) and how could you prevent it. Watch your enemy jungler what was he doing, to learn from him, copy their strong plays and patterns, and make them help you become better. Did they got a dragon? Why? Where were you, why wasn't you there to prevent it or take it yourself? Why weren't you counter ganking or counter jungling, compare your gameplay to your enemy and learn from your own and their mistakes.

Hope this helps ;) Draven

CinnaBon KittenzDec 13, 20161 votes

Beautiful! Even if it won't help him, I could take from it well. I'd love if you'd critic my Miss Fortune Games!! :D

Inquisitor KaneDec 13, 20161 votes

Well... I can try :-D

Very bad runes With them you are ruining your early game, basically. With such runes you can't go beyond low silver. Create 2 basic rune pages (AD + AP). AD: 9x AD reds, 9x armor yellows, 9x MR blues, 3x AD quints. This is also most common rune page to use for Miss Fortune these days. AP: 9x MagPen reds, armor yellow, MR blues, 3x AP quints. Use that for AP champions. These 2 rune pages will be enough until low gold. If oyu paly tanks, you can make 3rd rune page: 9x armor reds, 9x HP yellow, 9x MR blues, 3xMS quints. That'll do for your elo nicely.
MF mastery page Switch Runic Affinity for Secret Stash. Affinityis only for junglers, you don't get much buffs in game and cakes regen more HP and gives instantly 20 mana which may save you life - or if you are missing <20 mana for ult it may win you the fight.
CSing is not bad for low silver, but don't get too comfy. Practice more and try to get 85CS per 10 minutes. End goal is 90-95CS in 10 minutes while harassing oponent with Qs... lots of hard work ahead. Put your CSing pants on ;)
Never ever buy Mobi boots. Those are only for supports or junglers. They give you 0 useful stats. Basically you can buy any other boots (depending on build and situation) and get something out of it. But not Mobi. Usually you go Swifties/Lucidity or Merc if enemy has a lot of CC.
Also stop buying Hurricane, it is a sht item for MF. Her ult crits and applies on hit stacks so go for lethality, crits and raw damage. These are commonly bought most useful items for her these days: Essence Reaver, BC, BORK, IE, Yommu, Dominik/Reminder, Rapidfire, BT... and for defense ofc Mercurial Scimitar, Maw, GA... also keep in mind Executioner's Calling against HP regen beasts like Vlad, Mundo, Swaine and such.... Try to alternate items. Not only to see the difference but also itemize for your actual game. You may get your first 2 items always the same way but sometimes you have to think what do you need, what is your enemy building and doing and what you need to do in that game.
You don't buy red wards and also ward too little. No vision = no knowledge about enemy movement and as an ADC you can get melted by nearly everybody in a second. Use that trinket to the maximum. I see you take blue trinket. Ward a bush oyu want to enter mile away so you don't get r4ped by Gareth and Fidel who always prowls the nearest bushes around you. Never push/farm solo in a lane where you have no wards. Because enemy will catch you and kill you. Every time.
And last but not least - priority for ADC is to stay alive and take objectives. Always help taking dragon/baron/tower, don't let your team do it alone while you farm those sweet 6 minions or a jungle camp 2 clicks away. Objectives are more important since this is objective-based game. And you can catch up on that farm any time.

UnFORTUNately as an ADC your positioning and mechanical skills are the key to victory. And I can't see from your stats if you are positioning right in the teamfight, if you lane properly and so on. Try to find some high elo ADC main (plat+) to watch your game and tell you mistakes. But as I mentioned in the above post - look up all your deaths and determine why you died and how not to do the same mistake next time. Because each death in this game is your own fault. Nobody else's :-)

I can give you few basic advices as - always stand behind other team mates, never up front ; never flame your support (even if they suck balls) because you need them and in worst case scenario use them as a meat shield in front of you ; never engage team fights ; learn to dodge skillshots... but you may know that already. But seriously never EVER flame your support. If they troll or leave the lane, you are fckd. Low elo players can't play 1v2 lane, especially not marksmen who can be dived under tower, deleted in 2 seconds and enemy doesn't even have to use Flash to escape. :-)

And check Phylol's vids. He is ADC main I think. https://www.youtube.com/user/ThePhylol

CinnaBon KittenzDec 13, 20161 votes

Cool Beans! :D Tanks for the help mate! I switch some things up and also have to buy magic resist quints x'D but either way the AD and AP page are set now. I'll check out some of Phylol's vids now, I just wanted to come back to comment and say thank you for the help. :D (totally do need to ward more xD to think when I support I average 30+ reg wards and 3-5 reds and yet on adc I never remember to get those things.)