why is leblancs chain so long?

Olympius·Jun 9, 2018·88 votes·17,883 views

if shes going to have so much burst why not make it more difficult to land combo? walking out of the chain is pretty much impossible.

68 Comments

Kurt HyzanJun 9, 201873 votes

As much as I love Leblanc , I think it's stupid that you can't even summoner 4 out her chain

FilDaFunkJun 9, 20184 votes

Well, she does have to land it.

Mokuto BunshiJun 9, 201824 votes

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Well, she does have to land it.

Kled Is a diver and he has to land a skinny skill shot that pays of after a few seconds at increasingly close range. Now, he may be a DIVER, but it teaches a good way to add counter play, if you are faster than kled, or he gets slowed, or you flash, all those are ways to escape his hook.

WimbledofyJun 10, 20189 votes

his goes through minions

Radiant WukongJun 10, 20181 votes

This

Velzard of KozJun 10, 20186 votes

And has adequatly lower range.

More important aspects are it costs no Mana and has lower cooldown while applying situationally more advantegous CC.

Mokuto BunshiJun 10, 20181 votes

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Is a diver and he has to land a skinny skill shot that pays of after a few seconds at increasingly close range. Now, he may be a DIVER, but it teaches a good way to add counter play, if you are faster than kled, or he gets slowed, or you flash, all those are ways to escape his hook.

Oh one more thing to follow up what I posted, I am not saying that an assassin should be without the tools to do burst, but lets not forget that for Pyke to have CC at all he was balanced around that (no 100>0 damage combo and a stealth that announces his presence [unlike Twitch ])

BioticJun 9, 201816 votes

It shouldnt be as hard to land as something like Anivia stun, but it shouldn't be as easy as it is now, especially when that ability doesnt proc minion aggro

RetaliatedJun 10, 20183 votes

im not sure what you are smoking sir but if it makes Anivia stun hard to land then hmu with your dealer.

InfernapeJun 9, 201815 votes

All the better to fuck you with lmao

Add92Jun 9, 201814 votes

Not being able to FLASH OUT of a low CD hard snare with high damage is fuckin retarded .

You eat one you lost your lane phase almost immediately

Elkington VIJun 10, 20183 votes

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Not being able to FLASH OUT of a low CD hard snare with high damage is fuckin retarded .

You eat one you lost your lane phase almost immediately

Squishy main problems.

FutureCreatorJun 10, 20182 votes

Ah yes, the ever popular tanks mid, like Maokai Poppy Zac .

WimbledofyJun 10, 20182 votes

don't forget Alistar Rammus definitely my favorite midlaners

FutureCreatorJun 10, 20182 votes

implying item 3152 item 3285 item 3135 item 3165 item 3020 item 3089 isn't op on either of them

The LexerJun 11, 20182 votes

Sion Galio

WubbaLubbaDubDabJun 9, 201813 votes

a flash or/and ahri's 1 r isnt enough to break that shit idk why riot keeps doing favours to lb mains,shes so toxic to play against especially her reverted version

SwiftKitten88Jun 9, 201812 votes

i wish they would give her back her rework.. it was the ONLY rework that actaully succeeded in giving said assassin counterplay.

and now she is back to being toxic as ever.. its like..

oh crap we actaully accomplished something we set out to do and turned a once toxic champion that was complete misery to face into a champ that had counterplay and was a fun matchup... we cant have that.. "revert"

DaSarcasticGuyJun 9, 20184 votes

The only good thing about her rework was the RR. The forced delay on her bust was done in the worst way possible. She still has a bit of delay in that all her damage is on the back half of abilities instead of the front half (Q mark and E proc). She's a bit slower than before and a bit faster than the rework.

RaveolutionJun 10, 20181 votes

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The only good thing about her rework was the RR. The forced delay on her bust was done in the worst way possible. She still has a bit of delay in that all her damage is on the back half of abilities instead of the front half (Q mark and E proc). She's a bit slower than before and a bit faster than the rework.

The slower burst wouldn't have been so bad if everyone in the game wasn't so insanely bursty right now though. It just happens to be horrible compared to the 30 assassins that kill you before electrocute even procs.

Irelia BotJun 9, 20187 votes

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i wish they would give her back her rework.. it was the ONLY rework that actaully succeeded in giving said assassin counterplay.

and now she is back to being toxic as ever.. its like..

oh crap we actaully accomplished something we set out to do and turned a once toxic champion that was complete misery to face into a champ that had counterplay and was a fun matchup... we cant have that.. "revert"

It was one of the reworks that the players of said champ hated.

Say Nidalee was reworked and lost her human form and you might have some idea of why the leblanc rework was hated.

ninjaroxasJun 9, 20184 votes

While I can see why the players hated it because she became more of a kite mage then assassin reverting it was the worst thing they could of done, considering she was reworked because how toxic her kit was

DracosKasuJun 9, 20183 votes

The only revert which doesnt affect a lot in turn of counterplsy is Ahri. But the problem aren’t the revert themself but the amount of burst given in the runes.

SwiftKitten88Jun 9, 20181 votes

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It was one of the reworks that the players of said champ hated.

Say Nidalee was reworked and lost her human form and you might have some idea of why the leblanc rework was hated.

nidalee WAS reworked and it was FANTASTIC, she used to be a weaker version of zoe. with no counterplay because there was never any use for cougar form really. you just stayed at max range throwing spears.

after her rework in 4.10 the vast majority of her damage was taken off her spear than then move to her takedown.. but she also got a long range pounce in after landing a spear.

she not only got much better counterplay as you were now forced to GO IN after landing a spear to follow up to finish them off.. but it made her more fun. so everyobody won.

and yeah im sure SOME lb mains didn't like it because they were given "counterplay"

just as zed mains cried a hissy fit when they had to wait 1 second before teleporting back to thier shadow.

but she WAS balance.. she WAS still fun for a lot of LB players. ( a bunch of my friends played her) and i saw her a LOT.

now she is hell to face again...

most assasin rworks didnt fix anything but at least didnt make them worse

Shaco rework made him worse for both the people facing him AND the players who liked him, be he didn't get reverted Katarina rework was horrific to any champ that donest do damage by a point and click. and she can now easily dodge anything in they game and endless amount of times

InfernapeJun 10, 20181 votes

but she WAS balance.. she WAS still fun for a lot of LB players. ( a bunch of my friends played her) and i saw her a LOT.

Balanced to the point where Riot obliterated her kit forcing her to either build Gunblade or rely on the gimmick of double proccing Lich Bane and Hextech revolver.

Reworked LeBlanc was a huge balance problem. She was literally permabanned everywhere soon after the assassin update occurred. She only stopped being a must ban when Riot gutted her W.

Glory97Jun 9, 20181 votes

I don't think the rework was better considering counterplay. Yes she took more time to burst people, so much time that if you didn't win the game by minute 25 you'd auto loose, cause adc would burst you faster than you took to kill them. And to make her work as a champion she was given insane damage in early game, creating the most ridicolous feast or famine champion to ever exist. (Yes the reworked version was quite weak, for the last 1,5 years thus not standing out in any way, but hell no I don't want the lb rework back in the state she was in right after the rework) Getting destroyed by a reworked leblanc in lane is a lot more frustrating than the old /revertet lb

Though I do admit that lb needs some dmg nerfs in one of the next patches.

Neptunia xoxoJun 9, 20188 votes

Her chain has had so many problems since they refuse to reduce the range on breaking the chain and fixing it's hit box like it can hit you when it's nowhere close to you.

MysticFlameHazeJun 10, 20181 votes

i wish it were a different ability completely, but they did actually nerf the range with the revert didnt they?

Neptunia xoxoJun 10, 20181 votes

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i wish it were a different ability completely, but they did actually nerf the range with the revert didnt they?

dunno. If so it's not noticeable.

MysticFlameHazeJun 11, 20181 votes

think it was either a 75 or 100 range nerf for the break

zeskgamesJun 10, 20185 votes

In the words of the poet and wordsmith Jibbs, "Do yo' chain hang low, Do it wobble to the flo', Do it shine in the light, Is it platinum? Is it gold? Could you throw it over ya shoulder, If ya hot, Ya make it cold, Do you chain hang low?" -Jibbs 2006

CosnirakJun 9, 20184 votes

The crazy part is that it used to be even longer. But yeah, it's still way too long.

My Waifu VanillaJun 9, 20185 votes

No no no. It used to be longer AND slow. What a cool ability. Fun for the whole family.

FilDaFunkJun 9, 20184 votes

She's excited.

hhaavviikkJun 10, 20183 votes

nocturne's E leash range got reduced because ''it felt bad flashing and still be in range of the leash'' meanwhile you can flash 3 times and leblanc's chain still wouldn't break

Akali is SO HOTJun 11, 20181 votes

Nocturne's tether is also point and click and can't be missed.

report yasuoJun 10, 20183 votes

Her reverted self makes her take no skill now just saying.

LatetotheRaceJun 10, 20183 votes

Why do assassins even have hard CC to begin with, I don't understand? :o

SweedishGunnerJun 9, 20182 votes

Just never get hit by a single chain 4Head.

mack9112Jun 9, 20182 votes

I play velkoz mid and have no problem juking that ability

MimrJun 9, 20182 votes

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I play velkoz mid and have no problem juking that ability

Hmm, Vel'Koz's tentacles and LeBlancs' chains. I see potential for some interesting... "interactions" there.

mack9112Jun 9, 20181 votes

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Hmm, Vel'Koz's tentacles and LeBlancs' chains. I see potential for some interesting... "interactions" there.

Nah vel is too much into the anal remember

EA14Jun 10, 20183 votes

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Hmm, Vel'Koz's tentacles and LeBlancs' chains. I see potential for some interesting... "interactions" there.

Begone thot

EmpressOfBeautyJun 10, 20182 votes

Leave her alone! At least they give you a chance to move out of it, many champions like Lux and Morgana have long range roots themselves and there is no waiting 1.5 seconds before it activates. And LeBlanc's can be blocked by staying behind minions. If she hooks it at melee range yeah it sucks because there is no escape.

FlashesJun 10, 20182 votes

Ok but lux and morgana have slow ass projectiles.

shockprimexJun 10, 20182 votes

no, Lux's is not slow. Morgana's is slow tho I agree.

FlashesJun 11, 20181 votes

Ok fine but Lux's snare is like

"It's ya boi, SKINNY PENIS"

and Lux projects her snare before she launches it

EmpressOfBeautyJun 11, 20181 votes

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Ok but lux and morgana have slow ass projectiles.

Lux's is not that slow

Fighter Ignite1Jun 10, 20182 votes

Rito's Excuse: Well she has to land and shes an assassin. You're lucky that it doesn't instantly root you. Us: She doesn't even need the chain to one-shot you, so she doesn't need the chain as an assassin anyway.