Sore Losers?

NBNeil·Feb 27, 2015·2 votes·879 views

I'd appreciate some commentary on this: playing unranked, in almost every game I've been in, as soon as we lose one tower someone on my team attempts to surrender. Usually this is at about 20 minutes, but certainly less than 30. Usually the other four players vote no, occasionally one other person votes yes. Is this an epidemic? Are other people experiencing this?

First of all, why not play out a loss for the experience? You're playing LoL, what big important thing did you have to do today? Second of all, one tower doesn't determine the winner! We can easily turn that game around! It's very frustrating.

9 Comments

SerevasFeb 27, 20151 votes

I understand the reasoning for surrendering an almost assuredly lost game, I had one last night where people refused to surrender even though one person screwed the entire game from champion select, and it went the way of Fiora & Master Yi both being majorly fed good luck stopping that split push. Sometimes I just want to be out of a bad game to attempt to get into a fresh one that has a chance at not being a nightmare.

That all being said, you're absolutely right, the first tower down doesn't declare the winning team, now if that first tower went down because the laner got bored of farming your laner for gold and xp and is now so fed they can barely walk, that's another story.

Another problem is that in unranked games, typically teams take turns throwing the lead, or if one team is predominantly in the lead they don't know how to finish the game. That game can go on for sometimes 30 minutes longer than it should have, and could have been surrendered and looking for a new game.

Right now you're low level and you'll eventually be able to see when a game is very unlikely to turn around, but at the moment, just about everyone that you're playing with, unless they're smurfs, will just want to immediately surrender when they lose a tower.

NBNeilFeb 27, 20151 votes

Ok, I understand all this! It's still ridiculous to me to surrender a game with no dragon, no baron, like, we're barely level 7 and you're already done? You died once and now you're embarrassed and want to leave? But the rest of what you said, I understand now, thank you.

SerevasFeb 27, 20151 votes

Yeah, that's an entirely different situation, 1 death is nothing, and a single tower, who cares, sometimes it's good to give up that tower to relieve some pressure from your lane if yours is being heavily focused. As you're leveling up towards summoner level 30, please don't ignore wards. :)

Yandere CarryFeb 27, 20151 votes

Well, I know I will gladly surrender a lot earlier in norms than I would in ranked. Why? Because getting pubstomped for 40 minutes for a 5% chance at making a hailmary miracle comeback doesn't seem as appealing to me as Requeuing.

NBNeilFeb 27, 20152 votes

Ok so maybe I should have reworded my "first of all" point? Basically I mean, down one turret in each lane but we've leveled and got a shitton of items. To me, now is probably the worst time to surrender, because you're ruining the morale of the other, beginner players--you're telling them we already lost and now they stop trying. But ok, I do see what you're saying! Beating a dead horse (no turrets, one lane has super minions and other team has dragon is a definite fucking loss unless we get three aces in a row) is not fun and I'd definitely want to surrender at that time.

Yandere CarryFeb 27, 20153 votes

Well, either you're asking why people insta-ff when someone dies... You're basicly asking why are people assholes.. I don't know, they just kind of are.

The other part is, why ff at a time when we are only marginally behind. There comes a time when you reach the point of being able to tell to a decent degree your odds of winning after X stuff. at 20 mins if we have weaker team comp, they are ahead several kills and 1-3 turrets... That's a lot of gold and they scale much better. I'd like to shave 20 minutes off my time, but that's just my take on it.

Infiny MageFeb 27, 20151 votes

Honestly I've been in games where weve been going ham and then someone makes one mistake and someone talks crap about it and won't let it go. (I mean dude, were still winning). Then erupts inner team bickering/arguing. I'm ready to surrender at that point. Teammates fighting when we should be fighting the enemy just baffles me and I'm ready to move on to the next game. I rather be on a team that does bad than deal with some of the nonsense that happens in teams at times. But In regards to your specific issue... In my experience the people you speak about are the ones who constantly type "gg" when a tower or 2 gets destroyed. Or enemy stole dragon. Ect ect. They are kids, In most cases. Soon as they think it's over they will cry and whine and spam /surrender. Lol

FDS DesperadoFeb 27, 20151 votes

I fucking haaaaaaaaaate people that spam surrenders and then go sulk off in the jungle or a lane somewhere when it gets denied. People do it all the time when the slightest thing goes wrong or they have a bad laning phase.

I am almost always against surrendering unless it gets outrageous, like 8 turrets to 0 or 25 kills to 3. Even then, if I have the 3 kills, probably still tryin to make shit happen lol.

TsugagaFeb 27, 20151 votes

Everyone gets players like this sometimes, and some people get a player like this every game because they are that player. If you play unranked, don't play blind pick, play draft or team builder. Blind pick will have most of the lesser skilled and more toxic players. Also, stay positive, assure your team that you can win. I've turned countless games around where my team has been down kills and has been saying GG since 10 minutes, I keep my team relaxed and positive and it helps everyone play better.