Thoughts for dynamic improvement. Fiora ripost should'nt block AoE abilities such as Amu R, Cho Q etc. It makes no sense considering the dynamics of the skill, and if Riot wants it to block everything as it does, it should be called something else and update its animation. In its current form it should only work against direct skills ass Braum E.
Ralanr11 votesHonestly I find it weird that it can block anything she isn't facing.
XxxLumberJackxxX1 votesHonestly I find it weird that it can block anything she isn't facing.
Yea this should be an obvious counterplay
DeathBurst5 votesGameplay trumps logic.
Nami can use Boots and heal Brand with water. It makes no sense. But if we had to change every skill so that it makes sense, the situation would be worse.
Sinlaire1 votesit depends on what she is blocking. she has to be facing missiles in order to blocked them with riposte. spells like ignite and AOE spells like Amumu's R have no travel direction and happen within an area instantly. because Fiora's riposte only blocks skills from in front of her and technically a portion of the spell was in front, she gets to block it.
As a person who has eaten an Ashe arrow as Fiora due to throwing Riposte the wrong way, it does at least have counter play in that it doesn't work like Yasuo Winds of Obliteration and just destroy anything that even considers touching it.
so in truth, it doesnt actually block anything she isnt facing as long as the missile/spell/whatever doesnt reach a portion of the riposte hitbox.
Critmaster Garen5 votesdynamic improvement.
ive never heared someone call a nerf like that.
this would create more issues than the ones in your head that it would solve.
if youd do this alone, it would trash fiora completely. so what are you going to do for the inevitable compensation buff to soften the blow? put more power into the rest of her kit? it would have to be quite a lot to keep her a functional champion.
which means she would become incredibly stronger against anyone who cant abuse this weakness and stomps everyone who isnt loaded with aoe, while being completely useless against the likes of 
or teams with tanks, divers and mages with aoe cc/damage abilities 
.
do you decrease the cooldown of riposte overall? same issue.
overall, fiora isnt overpowered right now. shes a decent pick, and actually in a perfect spot balance wise. but not even close to 
in terms of reliability. i think the main issue people have with her and why they feel it frustrating to fight her, is the knowledge barrier around her mini game. there are small mechanics attached to it, that mostly those people who play her know and know to abuse than the people playing against her. but that doesnt make her imbalanced or overpowered.
Euthenaasia2 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xEHlvY0f,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-05-19T14:53:30.955+0000)
ive never heared someone call a nerf like that.
Uh, Riot literally calls some nerfs "adjust" in their own patch promo videos so maybe it's time for something new?
Critmaster Garen1 votesUh, Riot literally calls some nerfs "adjust" in their own patch promo videos so maybe it's time for something new?
theyre usually calling nerfs for what they are.
when they say "adjust", they nerf an ability on one end and buff it at another end. like reduced early damage and increased late damage. or decrease scalings, but increase base values etc..
plus, the word "dynamic" makes literally zero fuckin sense here XD
there is nothing dynamic about it.
Anonagon2 votesI disagree with your assessment of Fiora's power level but this is a great explanation of why the OP's suggestion is a terrible idea.
Critmaster Garen1 votesI disagree with your assessment of Fiora's power level but this is a great explanation of why the OP's suggestion is a terrible idea.
fiora has overall 10% play rate, 52% winrate and peaks out at 55% winrate for experienced players. new players to the champion have 45% winrate on fiora.
meanwhile ahri with 20% play rate, 54% winrate and peaks out at 57% winrate. and has 50% winrate for new players to the champion.
the difference between beeing a good pick and being overtuned imo.
remember that fiora is supposed to be a carry. so when she snowballs, she can really take over games. but its no different than 
only that i still feel more confident fighting a fed fiora than fighting a fed vayne personally.
xJLx MCHammer1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xEHlvY0f,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-05-19T14:53:30.955+0000)
ive never heared someone call a nerf like that.
this would create more issues than the ones in your head that it would solve.
if youd do this alone, it would trash fiora completely. so what are you going to do for the inevitable compensation buff to soften the blow? put more power into the rest of her kit? it would have to be quite a lot to keep her a functional champion.
which means she would become incredibly stronger against anyone who cant abuse this weakness and stomps everyone who isnt loaded with aoe, while being completely useless against the likes of
do you decrease the cooldown of riposte overall? same issue.
overall, fiora isnt overpowered right now. shes a decent pick, and actually in a perfect spot balance wise. but not even close to
She's not in a perfect spot
Critmaster Garen1 votes[{quoted}](name=xJLx MCHammer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xEHlvY0f,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2017-05-19T17:51:40.302+0000)
She's not in a perfect spot
based on what? objectively shes not overtuned. the fact that she can carry games, means shes working, not that she needs nerfs.
none of her solo que stats look out of place. i couldnt care less what happens in tournaments. its a whole different world, that we dont even have to deal with in our games.
like ive played against fiora more than once recently, and i can understand that at times it can be frustrating to fight her. on the other hand ive also learned a lot about her vital mechanic, how to deal with it and her ult, and i havent lost lane or a game to a fiora in quite a while.
and in the end, i still feel fiora is easier to deal with in a teamfight scenario than most marksmen.
she has to fight in melee range with one single defensive mechanism. and thats on a 15 second cooldown even around midgame. if you play around it and get past it, shes toast.
bruiser fiora was a problem. the current glass cannon build is working as intended.
if there is still a problem, i feel like its more with specific items like 
which is downright cancer.
TEA Nietzsche 3 votesWhat would it even block then? I mean, don't get me wrong, as a Riven OTP this would be great, but wtf is even left?
Arcus Diabolus2 votesUnder that logic, Jax dodging and Fizz's hops shouldn't allow someone to dodge AOE either.
junglerboy162 votesJax dodge doesn't block AoE, just AAs with slight damage reduction for AoE.
Fizz becomes untargetable, so that makes sense (his whole schtick is that's he's a nimble slippery bastard that's hard to pin down).
deadlychuck1 votesIt doesn't make sense that it even blocks more than 1 thing...
Meliodäs1 votesWell, it's bullshit that it can block even ignite
Critmaster Garen4 votesWell, it's bullshit that it can block even ignite
ignite is instantaneous. if she blocked it, you ignited her during the riposte animation, which makes it entirely your fault tbh. same for other summoners.
Succubús GF1 votesI have had a fiora riposte my ignite as i was doing it, but to clarify it still shouldnt be a "mechanic" it just doesnt really make sense
Critmaster Garen2 votes[{quoted}](name=Afk Warding,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xEHlvY0f,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-19T16:45:20.511+0000)
I have had a fiora riposte my ignite as i was doing it, but to clarify it still shouldnt be a "mechanic" it just doesnt really make sense
then its a lucky coincidence, or unlucky depending on the perspective. either she predicted the ignite, which is almost impossible to pull off, or she was parrying another ability and you hit ignite at the same time.
either way, its a rare interaction that isnt gamebreaking.
SpookyNeedle1 votesI don't think they have the resources to differentiate between aoe and more linear skillshots
Sinlaire1 votesthey do and it does, roughly. anything that touches the riposte hitbox gets destroyed. if struck in the back she is still hit. AOE spells are all wiped out becuase it happens in an area around her and that always means a portion of it strikes the forward facing hitbox of the riposte.
go custom game with a buddy and pick anyone that has a skillshot that doesnt strike through like Ez and Draven ult and all of them should strike her in the back even if she is in riposte.
SpookyNeedle1 votesthey do and it does, roughly. anything that touches the riposte hitbox gets destroyed. if struck in the back she is still hit. AOE spells are all wiped out becuase it happens in an area around her and that always means a portion of it strikes the forward facing hitbox of the riposte.
go custom game with a buddy and pick anyone that has a skillshot that doesnt strike through like Ez and Draven ult and all of them should strike her in the back even if she is in riposte.
Uh, no, if she's struck in the back it is still blocked. Also it's not the entire rectangular parry/riposte hitbox that "destroys" things. It's just what hits Fiora herself. It can block anything that "attacks" (maybe a better word is affects) Fiora except tower shots
awdaf1 votesYou mean, it isn't realistic if Ziggs throws his mega atomic bomb at her and she parrys it? You don't think she built an anti-missle system before it hit and shot it down so it does nothing? Noob.
DeathBurst1 votesGameplay trumps logic.
Nami can use Boots and heal Brand with water. It makes no sense. But if we had to change every skill so that it makes sense, the situation would be worse.
Spice POWAH1 votesConsidering she can block:
Light, an entire galaxy, JUSTICE, poison, and time being stopped, she ain't got time for logic.
(also, braum e is his shield, unless you meant to put as and not ass.)
Joxcab1 votesWhat the fuck is this garbage ass suggestion?
You are asking to trash one of the whole points of Riposte.
AL0001 votesIt also blocks pan's ult... not cool
Weiner the Pooh1 votesI look at it as the skill animation being a summary of what happens, for little things she deflects it then counter attacks(the stun/slow) on bigger things(such as aoe) she dodges then counter attacks. The over all animation is just a simplified version of that because there is no way they could code the other way, too many situations and the one they went with was the easiest and got their point across of what the champ is doing.
