Poor Kassadin

Dulce Dama·Sep 19, 2015·27 votes·2,504 views

Seriously this guy needs buff i find his damage laughable. I was all for kass nerfs wayy back then when he needed it and im pretty sure it was because of his mobility but now its fixed and no damage nerfs been reverted :(.

33 Comments

TurquoiseYoshiSep 19, 201515 votes

He can't assassinate, he can't teamfight, he can't waveclear, he can't jungle, he can't do anything.

YumaS2AstralSep 19, 20155 votes

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He can't assassinate, he can't teamfight, he can't waveclear, he can't jungle, he can't do anything.

Kids nowadays don't believe that Kassadin used to be the most broken champion in the game.

(that doesn't mean he doesn't need buffs of course)

TurquoiseYoshiSep 19, 20151 votes

I know how powerful he used to be, but that was a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. Currently, he is unable to assist his team in any way, shape, or form.

CasterGilgameshSep 19, 20152 votes

meh when i played against him i just won with Talon

Auz the RipperSep 19, 20158 votes

Talon did usually win lane against old kassadin, but when mid-late game came around old kassadin was still old kassadin

MelledoneusSep 20, 20152 votes

Then again, old Kassadin could beat old Talon in lane. All he had to do was have more movement speed and boom, free harass. The kiting was real.

YumaS2AstralSep 20, 20151 votes

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Then again, old Kassadin could beat old Talon in lane. All he had to do was have more movement speed and boom, free harass. The kiting was real.

The only two champions that I could use to beat the old kassadin was MasterYi post rework and Khazix

Yi because he could just keep auto-attacking Kassadin so the silence wasn't a big deal, also after some lifesteal and Hexdrinker Yi could 1x1 old Kassadin at any stage of the game. Yi's ult also allowed him to chase Kassadin even with his Riftwalk.

Kha'Zix could poke and outtrade Kassadin and also had his spikes to mitigate some of the poke damage. The problem is that once mid game came, Kassadin's silence was really crippling to Kha'Zix. With a Banshee's Veil and Hexdrinker late game, however, Kha'Zix could beat Kassadin once again, but Kha'Zix still had inferior teamfighting presence.

MalzaharAnyLaneSep 20, 20152 votes

I preferred the game when Kassadin was broken, it meant it kept toolboxes like Lee Sin and Riven in check.

THEJJSLAYSep 20, 20151 votes

I kinda miss the threads about perma-ban kass skins

IpolsSep 19, 20153 votes

I keep playng him and I keep losing the game or the lane at least.. Help me my mmr is going downhill

53436278DEL1Sep 19, 20151 votes

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I keep playng him and I keep losing the game or the lane at least.. Help me my mmr is going downhill

same

53436278DEL1Sep 19, 20152 votes

LOl ikr his damage is laughable through all stages of the game

OperationDEEZ1Sep 19, 20151 votes

item 3027 item 3089 stop fucking building tear

SmokinSickStyleSep 19, 20153 votes

The problem is that with those items, you'll deal the same damage LeBlanc support deals with support item+sightstone.

OperationDEEZ1Sep 19, 20154 votes

http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2012/07/25/oh-wait-youre-serious-let-me-laugh-even-harder_t269x200.jpg?4ed55987df16ce4ecaed3fbcd5c3e2

Auz the RipperSep 19, 20151 votes

Technically speaking the archangels+rabadon's+rod of ages gives the highest amount of AP of any three item combo when fully stacked

With archangel's giving between 87 and 110 AP, amping up to between 118 to 148 With the AP breaking even with zhonya's at 450 stacks

Rod of ages giving between 72 and 124 AP, amping up to between 97 and 167 AP breaking even with zhonya's at 6 stacks

And rabadon's is rabadon's

RalanrSep 19, 20152 votes

Give him a silence.

Then watch people QQ.

PikaCHU567Sep 19, 20152 votes

He can get deleted.

PL55Sep 19, 20152 votes

I still like him, he's pretty underrated tbh.

Shroom JunkieSep 20, 20152 votes

NO. GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM KASSADIN. HE IS MY MAIN MID LANER AND I DON'T WANT HIM BUFFED ONLY SO HE CAN BE NERFED EVEN HARDER OR PICK/BAN. G T F O HE'S FINE.

Jeanne fan clubSep 19, 20151 votes

He has the absolute worst damage out of every single champ until late game. But being completely honest, the changes to his ult make him able to 1v1 immobile squishy mages now so he isn't completely worthless in that regard. He is the worst pick in solo Q atm though, he offers nothing that will help his team win.

J EevoSep 19, 20151 votes

He's in line for a rework, his damage is too reliable for them to buff it back up (Riot rarely undos damage nerfs anyway). His early game is atrocious on purpose, and while they try to weasel out of it with buffing R and so, it's all AP ratios instead of base damage(and he doesn't even use R's damage portion that much with the range nerf on it anyway)

ReazaleSep 19, 20155 votes

Cos changing Veigars Q insto a skillshot instead of Kassadin Q into one was an awesome idea, i never understood why null sphere wasnt a skill shot (like syndra Q)

LadyRenlySep 19, 20151 votes

I play him simply because I love how he plays, but I still cry every time because I lost because I picked Kassadin and not Leblanc or Ahri or whatever.

RenascentSep 19, 20151 votes

I've been finding success in this build:

Summoner Spells: Clarity + Flash

Runes: MPen Reds (x9) Scaling Armor Yellows (x9) Scaling CD Blues (x9) Scaling CD Quints (x3)

Masteries: 21/9/0 (5% cd)

Build Order: Flask 3Red --> Tear --> RoA --> Mobility Boots + Homeguards --> Seraphs --> RoA (x3) OR RoA(x2) + Void Staff

Reasoning: Kassadin's ulti has been nerfed time and time again. With the recent addition of AP scaling to his ulti, however, Kassadin got some of his damage back.

Normally, you wouldn't be able to stack up your ulti before blinking onto your target due to running out of mana, or dying too fast if you tried. With this build, you can have 5k+ mana for 10+ blinks (That's over 5000 range wherever you want to go!), and 4k+ health with Seraph Shield so you can go crazy. Clarity gives you an extra 1-3 blinks if you run out of mana.

For those of you who think this is a troll "Tank Kassadin" build, remember that these are all AP items, albeit all geared towards the late game. Then again, Kassadin has always been an amazing late game champion.

Survive the early-mid game, and this build will create a late game monster with 1.35s cd blink, burst comparable to Katarina, consistent AoE damage from ulti, and the ability to catch a target from halfway across the map.

Disclaimer: Only had ~10 games with this build in normals. Always like to test new builds extensively before bringing into ranked.

A Miss FortuneSep 20, 20151 votes

That build sounds terrible.

Personally I just max Q > W > E instead of the traditional Q > E > W because frankly his E is trash.

In order item 3027 item 3100 item 3020 item 3135 item 3089 item 3102

RenascentSep 20, 20151 votes

Don't knock it 'till you tried it!

Builds like yours get strong fast, but reach its cap in potential fast as well. Mine only gets stronger after the build is finished, as there are more RoA stacks to be had.

I'll link some replays when I get around to playing it some more.

RenascentSep 20, 20151 votes

Here's the replay of a game I just played.

http://www.replay.gg/?r=NA1&id=1956372633&key=56q9bJ7FqIhb3ndZeTbgBLdIPLLWcjYb

and the game's details

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1956372633/52701114

Lady HammerlockSep 20, 20151 votes

kassadin is like a jump in jump out champion jump in deal such a low amount of dmg then repeat he makes safe mages like azir who think they are safe once they land a good wall cry

SaphixiaSep 20, 20151 votes

Theyll buff him, then URF will come around and theyll nerf him into the ground coz you know kassadin

KoldheartedjspSep 20, 20151 votes

rito doesn't want kassadin to be viable because he isn't a 6300 champ

Keep 6300 champs in the spotlight, sell champs, make money

FatalitýSep 20, 20151 votes

The problem with Kass is he is one of those champs who is either Super OP or Not playable UP

Right now he is Unplayable because of all the nerfs his kit is just impossible to balance if they want to balance him he's probably gonna need a rework :/

BeoridasSep 20, 20151 votes

the math up versus kass and talon was in kass favor. BUT late game, its whoever struck first that won. Talon was a lot scarier since his silence was pretty much instant.

That being said. The buffs he has received werent very good. Its wayyy too costly to use and it doesnt solve his mid game (which is among the worst in the game practically)

Ive made 3 upvoted threads about him but riot is pretty stubborn to NOT answer any threads. even if the ideas are good and logical.