revert urgot riot hear me out Please vote

baayveer·Dec 2, 2019·5 votes·2,056 views

Please hear me out, Please revert Urgot bring back our Urgot that we loved he was good and unique fun to play and much rewarding in late game. you reverted LB and ZAC why not Urgot even though he has huge visual update than the two but its still can happen reduce his size by little and bring back the hidden gem of Zaun. now he is boring his W feels weird and feels slow to control sluggish and no one plays him much, even though the new one got little update and his shield moved from W to his E was it a mistake or a its hard to swallow your pride when it was a bad rework am sorry to say this but i loved playing Urgot he was my favorite champ. it was sad experience to play him after the rework i tried to adjust but it didn't feel like Urgot just another tank with execute ult felt boring its looks like dumb down version no skill required (no fun) just build him tank and wait for your ult like Garen. was the rework outcome was what you hoped for. look at Yummi and Ivren now they are unique why not bring back the Urgot.

"I detect the presence of scum." "Eternal life... endless torture." "Fear? No... I am the mindkiller." Urgot mains please lets try to bring our beloved cute Urgot If riot saw there is acceptance of the change hopefully they will hear us

19 Comments

KazekibaDec 2, 20194 votes

Urgot is, by and far, THE most successful VGU to date. Sion and Morde are contenders and Sion might actually be #1 but the point stands. Reverting Urgot would be as silly as giving Kassadins silence back

EbonyBladeJ88Dec 2, 20193 votes

As I have said to people complaining about the Morde VGU, they CAN'T revert them, because they usually don't have the old assets any more with which to revert, for one thing.

Second, Riot DOESN'T REVERT VGUS. Sorry to be THAT guy, but sometimes a dose of Hard Reality is what people need.

CõmegaDec 2, 20192 votes

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As I have said to people complaining about the Morde VGU, they CAN'T revert them, because they usually don't have the old assets any more with which to revert, for one thing.

Second, Riot DOESN'T REVERT VGUS. Sorry to be THAT guy, but sometimes a dose of Hard Reality is what people need.

They have the old assets.

EbonyBladeJ88Dec 2, 20191 votes

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They have the old assets.

I said USUALLY. I'm not denying the possibility, but it's more likely that they do NOT have them.

DuskDaUmbreonDec 2, 20192 votes

Riot's officially said they do not keep old code around. It's well within reason to assume they don't keep the old assets around either.

There's probably a small bit of delay before they purge them (in case there's some bug not picked up on PBE and a revert becomes absolutely necessary because holy shit the champion literally broke everything when it hit live), but I doubt it's more than a patch or two, if they do so at all.

CõmegaDec 2, 20192 votes

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Riot's officially said they do not keep old code around. It's well within reason to assume they don't keep the old assets around either.

There's probably a small bit of delay before they purge them (in case there's some bug not picked up on PBE and a revert becomes absolutely necessary because holy shit the champion literally broke everything when it hit live), but I doubt it's more than a patch or two, if they do so at all.

You obviously have no idea how programming works. They don't keep old code in the public release version.

They still have it in other versions

DuskDaUmbreonDec 2, 20192 votes

What other versions? The versions that don't exist anymore?

The code was deleted. Gone. Poof. There is literally no more code than PBE, alpha/dev code, live, and an assumed backup of the previous patch that may not even exist. There are no other versions, there are no other backups, there is nothing else.

CõmegaDec 2, 20192 votes

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What other versions? The versions that don't exist anymore?

The code was deleted. Gone. Poof. There is literally no more code than PBE, alpha/dev code, live, and an assumed backup of the previous patch that may not even exist. There are no other versions, there are no other backups, there is nothing else.

You obviously have no idea how programming works.

DuskDaUmbreonDec 2, 20192 votes

Ok. What reason does Riot POSSIBLY have to lie about that?

Just because you keep around 2 year old code for your own off-brand Minesweeper doesn't mean Riot does.

baayveerDec 2, 20193 votes

this is what i got from riot support there is a hope

Hey there again~

We keep a close eye on the League of Legends boards so if there is a wide spread issue with a certain champion for example, we're sure to take necessary action, so you can use that as a platform to forward your ideas to us <3

Thank you for your time! It's really appreciated✨

Cheers!

2Garrett

EbonyBladeJ88Dec 2, 20192 votes

A revert of a VGU from 2 years ago is likely something they don't consider to be an "issue".

Cotten Eyed JoeDec 2, 20193 votes

Pre-rework Urgot was largely considered to be THE WORST champion. The new Urgot is a pretty strong pick and a decent lane bully. Urgot is also considered one of the most successful reworks in that they made one of the worst champions become one of the strongest without being OP. Why would you ever revert it

MikeJ122ODec 2, 20192 votes

[{quoted}](name=Cotten Eyed Joe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x6ObO5FA,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-02T02:20:42.076+0000)

Pre-rework Urgot was largely considered to be THE WORST champion. The new Urgot is a pretty strong pick and a decent lane bully. Urgot is also considered one of the most successful reworks in that they made one of the worst champions become one of the strongest without being OP. Why would you ever revert it

And the people who could make pre-rework Urgot work were the very small minority which includes me. It was actually busted building Death's Dance into lethality items with mana runes. His visual update was nice but they destroyed what Urgot had in his kit.

Bring Back UrgodDec 9, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Cotten Eyed Joe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x6ObO5FA,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-02T02:20:42.076+0000)

Pre-rework Urgot was largely considered to be THE WORST champion. The new Urgot is a pretty strong pick and a decent lane bully. Urgot is also considered one of the most successful reworks in that they made one of the worst champions become one of the strongest without being OP. Why would you ever revert it

Yes, indeed that is what he was considered to be. However, that was the opinion players that did not bother to learn to play him had.

"The new Urgot is a pretty strong pick and a decent lane bully."

Old Urgot was possibly 'the' strongest lane bully in the game. Even when behind he was still able to out CS the enemy and win trades. The new Urgot does not even compare. His new ult vs the old is a major downgrade too. A glorified execute vs the ability to engage and completely displace the enemy backline. There is just no competition.

AboSlmanDec 2, 20193 votes

"I detect the presence of silvers in this thread" Why these downvotes attack It must have been from silver yasuo mains

Vhan8765Dec 2, 20192 votes

To be honest, I did prefer Urgot before the rework, although I also preferred Swain before his rework as well.

The problem with both those champions is that their reworks were considerably successful and therefore Riot has absolutely no reason to even consider reverting them. They've never cared about any player base enough to change things they see as successful.

All we can do now is hope a League Classic comes into existence one day.

BlackXIVDec 2, 20191 votes

I honestly loved the old Urgot, I picked him anytime I got autofilled top and kicked ass. But that's the problem he was broken and hard to balance. Even tho I personally loved him I cannot see him being healthy to the game in his previous state.

The main reason his winrate was so low however is that people played him mid and bot instead of seeing him for the situational toplane bully that he was, I wanted to clarify that.

Bring Back UrgodDec 9, 20191 votes

The issue isn't really whether the rework was a success because pretty much anyone can say it was. Players that 'did not' play him before got interested.

The issue is however in that it is 'mainly' the players that 'did not' play him before that stand to benefit as opposed to old Urgot mains, which unfortunately much like old Aatrox mains or what have you have a hole left where their favorite champion was previously.

As much as the player base or Riot may think that they preserved his kit and playstyle this can not be further from the truth. Instead, they focused on preserving him thematically, which my self and a lot of old Urgot mains do not care too much for.

The arguments that his kit was not viable or that his abilities didn't work well together is a fallacy. Given enough time to learn his kit would prove otherwise. They even played him in the LCS to a high success just prior to his rework. He was in a really good spot after the small quality of life changes he received.

To conclude, his rework removed a niche playstyle and player base from the game. Whilst his rework has seen a lot of success amongst the player base at large, it still stands to hurt the players that cared about him the most. As such if a revert of his rework isn't possible, re-releasing him as a separate champion would also be a very welcome alternative.

Link to an old Mobafire guide for those who wish to learn a bit more about this old champ.

baayveerDec 19, 20191 votes

http://chng.it/9qrtR2WvHq